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Tips for Making Knives: Forging During the Summer

  1. Hydrate
  2. Limit Heat Exposure
  3. Dress Appropriately
  4. Sweat the Load
  5. Divide the Labor

Like most forgers, I try to build a stockpile of damascus and different sized blades in the winter months when the temperature is below 50 degrees F. Sometimes, because of where you live, it might not drop below 70 degrees F. Hot is hot no matter where you forge, and there will be a time when you have to forge no matter how high the temperature is.

Here are some helpful hints to get you through the hot times.

Hydrate

Tips for forging knives
Keep a squirt bottle nearby for a cooling spritz when you need it.

“Pre-hydrate” the day before you are going to forge. Also, drink plenty of water during forging and afterward. I use a squirt bottle to spray myself during forging to add extra cooling. Staying hydrated should keep those nasty headaches away.

Limit Heat Exposure

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Take frequent water breaks while sitting in a cool breeze if at all possible.

If you are lucky enough to have a second person that knows how to forge helping you, take turns doing the work. This limits the amount of time one person has to stand by the hot forge. After your turn, get away from the heat and drink fluids.

Usually I’ll pull a chair close to the door to catch any breeze that might be blowing. I place a fan to blow across the cooling chair if the temperature’s above 90 degrees F. Some have a gas forge that can be moved outside, which is better for the radiating heat, though a strong wind can mess with the fire.

The main point here is to limit the time you are exposed to the forge heat.

Dress Appropriately

How to forge knives
The author eschews long sleeves while hammering a hot billet.

I do away with such coverings as aprons, arm covers and/or long sleeves. I haven’t gone to shorts because there would be a piece of hot something rolling down my leg and into my work boots. No amount of stomping around gets it out. I stick with jeans.

Sweat the Load

A towel or rag that helps keep the sweat from getting in your eyes is a good idea. Your shirt will be soaking wet after a few minutes, so don’t count on it as a sweat sponge.

Divide the Labor

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The author eschews long sleeves while hammering a hot billet.

When welding damascus on very hot days, one day I do just the first weld to seal the billet. Then the next day, I stretch the billet. The following day, I cut and restack the billet for layer count.

I follow this pattern till I have the billet the way I want it. This takes a lot longer but it doesn’t wear you out at the end of the day.

Then again, sometimes I just work through the heat and sit in my truck with the air conditioning on high. An extra shirt also helps to keep sweat off your vehicle seat.

Keep on Forging

So remember: Drink fluids, limit your time being by the hot forge, stay as cool as possible—and keep forging!

Knife Review: Factory vs. Custom Version of Similar Knife

Factory versus custom knife review

 

We The People custom knife review

MOTAC by Doublestar factory knife review

Factory vs. Custom: A Knife Review Battle for the Ages

The blades of both the MOTAC by Doublestar and We The People by Brad Mock have somewhat of a triangular appearance. This provides a very sharp tip for fine work and a wider base for heavier jobs. I decided to start at the tip of each blade and work my way back.

Knife Test: Paper Cuts

Knife test paper cut
The WTP sliced the copy paper great at the midway point to the tip, but the edge started to thicken toward the grip and was unsuited for slicing. The MOTAC was smooth and cut aggressively along the entire edge.

First up was a quick edge check by slicing 20-pound bond copy paper. Brad’s knife sliced great at the midway point to the tip. From midway to the start of the cutting edge it has a thicker edge geometry unsuited for slicing.

The Doublestar knife was smooth and aggressive along the whole edge, giving me nice slicing sounds.

Knife Test: Cardboard

Knife test cardboard cut

It was time to thin out the cardboard pile. The MOTAC sliced smoothly and was very controllable. The thickness of the blade twisted the cardboard as I was cutting but did not affect the slices. We The People sliced very smoothly and cleanly. The handle shape made it easy to control.

My wife, Melissa, had purchased a new lounge chair. The box it came in had corner supports of compacted cardboard, solid and heavy duty—perfect for chopping. We The People chopped an average of 3/8 inch deep. The MOTAC averaged the same depth. This is some tough cutting medium, for sure.

Knife Test: Whittle

It was time to relax and whittle a spell. The MOTAC was very smooth at the pursuit. It gave great curly-cues and was extremely controllable. I really liked the deep choil.

We The People was choppy with the curly-cues. I had to increase the angle of my cut to dig deeper. The edge geometry was on the thicker side. The handle was very comfortable during use.

Knife Test: Rope Cut

Rope cut knife test

Next up was the rope cut. I untwisted a 1-inch manila rope and used one of the 3/8-inch strands. We The People started off crunching until at 50 cuts the edge started to slide. The deep etching seemed to slow the blade down some. The handle was very comfortable during the push cuts. The MOTAC crunched to 135 cuts before the edge started to slide. The handle was slightly rough on my hand during the push cuts.

Knife Test: Brass Rod

Knife flex test
Both knives flexed on the brass rod without chipping or dulling, an indication of good heat treatment on each.

To check the flexibility of the edge I employ the brass rod test. Both knives flexed without chipping or dulling, an indication of good heat treatment by both makers.

Bottom Line

I liked the feel of the We The People and the function of the Doublestar.

Suggestions

I would soften the handle edges on the MOTAC a little and decrease the edge angle on We The People.


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