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There May Be No Time Like Now to Buy a Bill Moran Knife

A coveted ST-24 by Blade Magazine Cutlery Hall-Of-Fame© member Bill Moran in wire inlay and checkering comes with a classic silver-half-moon leather sheath. Moran used the “W.F. Moran” stamp starting in 1980, typically on larger knives. It is not seen much anymore. (Dave Ellis photo)

 


By Dave Ellis

 

I still see Blade Magazine Cutlery Hall-Of-Fame© member Bill Moran each time I hold one of my many Moran knives. I miss visiting with Bill at the BLADE Show and the Art Knife Invitational. I miss showing him my latest Moran acquisition and watching his eyes light up as he explained how the knife came about.

    I have collected a wide variety of Moran knives over the past 30 years. The one I have found the easiest to resell because of their collectibility and historical importance, in no particular order, are the ST-24, cinquedea, Southwestern bowies, 50-year anniversary editions, his damascus pieces, folders—he made fewer than 50—and quillon daggers, especially those in damascus.

    In general, the more contemporary the Moran knife, the greater its value and collectibility. However, the cinquedea is an important exclusion to this rule. Bill made only about seven of them and most or all have Lime Kiln stamps, which indicates the knives were made sometime between the mid-1950s and 1973. I have sold a Moran cinquedea for over $30,000.

 

Value Enhancers

Some of the features that increase Moran knife values are wire-inlaid handles and sheaths, accompanying display boxes made by Bill, the knives that appear in the book written by Cutlery Hall-Of-Famers B.R. Hughes and Houston Price, Master of the Forge, the 50-yrs. stamping, and the newer raised-leather-style sheaths.

    Since Bill’s passing in 2006, his knives have had a slight increase in value, though nowhere near the jump that will occur down the road. Many of his pieces are finding their way to China, Russia and other countries. Bill was never a prolific maker, so with the limited number of knives he made, those that hit the market are coveted by collectors and dealers alike.

    Damascus Moran knives are in a class of their own. Bill is recognized as the father of modern damascus and his pattern-welded blades are highly prized, and can range from a low of $7,000 to upwards of $60,000! His damascus fighters and bowies seem to be the most desirable, followed by daggers and hunters.

    Curly maple is a common Moran handle material, so when you can buy one in stag or other materials, it typically costs a premium.

    The knives from the 1990s are probably among the finest to leave the Moran shop. They are lighter and quicker in the hand than Lime Kiln models and usually come with the newer-style sheaths. If you are lucky enough to find one with the 50 yrs. marking, you will see that it demands a premium.

    The future looks very bright for those collecting Moran knives. You can still pick up a great example at a reasonable price and rest assured that it will increase in value down the road.

    Bill made his knives one at a time by hand, no apprentices, no newfangled tools. His forge, anvil and hammer should reside in the Smithsonian!

 

    For more information on Moran knives and their values, contact the author at 760-945-7177 or visit his website, exquisiteknives.com.

 

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Moran Knife Values

 

Carbon steel hunters $4,000-$10,000

Carbon steel fighters (ST-23 and ST-24) $10,000-$25,000

Carbon steel bowies (Southwestern bowies can bring the upper range, $6,000-$35,000

especially with composite stag handles)

Carbon steel folders $15,000-$25,000+

Damascus hunters $7,000-$20,000

Damascus fighters $18,000-$70,000

Damascus bowies $18,000-$40,000

Damascus folders (extremely rare) $20,000-“to way up there”

 

*All values are the author’s. Features such as matched sets, gold wire inlay—which is especially rare—special stampings and logos, handle materials and blade materials can have an impact on value.

 

 

Moran Tang Stamps

 

Most of Bill Moran’s knives can be valued based on their tang stamps. The rule of thumb is that newer Moran knives bring higher values. The author values each stamp using a star system, with five stars being the most valuable, four stars the next most valuable, etc.

•Damascus—Bill started using this stamp in 1973 and discontinued it around 1979. It was always used along with the MORAN stamp: 4-5 Stars

•50 yrs.—Starting in 1989, Bill began his 50-years knife project. The stamp appears only on 50 knives celebrating his 50th anniversary of knifemaking: 4-5 Stars

•WFM—Bill’s first stamp used in the late 1940s: 4 Stars

•MORAN—He started using this stamp in 1973 and still uses it today: 3-4 Stars

•M.S.—Denotes a master smith with the American Bladesmith Society, first used by Bill in 1981: 3-4 Stars

•W.F. Moran—Bill used this stamp starting in 1980, typically on larger knives. It is not seen much anymore: 3-4 Stars

•Moran (small print)—Bill used it on his miniature knives: 3 Stars

•By W.F. Moran, Lime Kiln MD—This is a common stamping first used in the mid-1950s and continued until 1973: 2-3 Stars

 

 

Moran Sheaths

 

Depending on materials used and how they are made, the sheaths can add significant value to a Bill Moran knife. The author values each sheath using a star system, with five stars being the most valuable, four stars the next most valuable, etc.

•Wooden sheath with silver wire inlay: 5 Stars

•New style wood-lined leather sheath with raised leather design: 4-5 Stars

•Wood-lined leather sheath with throat and tip (steel or ivory is better than brass for fittings): 4 Stars

•Wood-lined leather sheath: 3-4 Stars (rating varies depending on the quality of the half moon and other accouterments)

•Leather sheath with a silver half moon: 3 Stars

•Wooden sheath: 3 Stars

•Plain leather sheath: 1-2 Stars

 

Knife Of The Day: Bartlow Award Winner

Our Knife Of The Day for Feb. 22 is John Bartlow’s utility hunter in a 4-inch blade of ATS-34 stainless steel and a handle of bark elephant ivory.

    Winner of “Judge’s Choice, Hunting/Utility Knife” at last year’s Professional Knifemakers Association Show in Denver, the knife is 8 5/8 inches overall and boasts Bartlow’s trademark line cutter/choil where the edge of the blade begins.

    For more information e-mail John at [email protected].

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Support Alaska’s “Knife Rights Bill”

In one of its latest e-mail newsletters, Knife Rights reports that Knife Rights Director of Legislative Affairs Todd Rathner testified at a hearing of the Alaska House Judiciary Committee on HB55 “Definitions of Gravity Knives and Switchblades” this past Wednesday. Referred to by sponsor Representative Mark Neuman as the “Knife Rights Bill,” the measure would clarify state law on the subject of assisted-opening and one-hand opening knives to ensure they are not considered gravity knives or switchblades, currently banned under Alaska statute. The bill was first introduced last year.

    According to the newsletter, Rep. Neuman introduced an amendment at Knife Rights’ request that was adopted into the bill to include Knife Law Preemption. Preemption means the state laws are applied throughout the state, regardless of where you are. With preemption, other political jurisdictions such as cities, towns and the like cannot pass laws regarding knives that are more restrictive than the state law. Preemption is the keystone to eliminating the patchwork of local knife laws that can trap the unwary citizen who cannot possibly know the particulars of the laws for each and every municipality. Preemption is the basis for further efforts to ease irrational knife restrictions altogether and is the cornerstone of Knife Rights’ efforts to protect Americans’ right to own and use knives.

    HB55 advanced out of committee with a unanimous vote.

 

    If you live, work or travel in Alaska, please contact your Representative and ask him or her to vote in support of HB55. For more information, click on http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/commbr_info.asp?session=27

    For more on Knife Rights, click on www.KnifeRights.org   

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Kansas Pro-Knife Bill Needs Your Support

    According to the Knife Rights e-mail newsletter, HB2584, introduced by Kansas State Representative Gary Hayzlett at the request of Knife Rights, was heard Thursday before the Kansas House Committee on Corrections and Juvenile Justice. Knife Rights Director of Legislative Affairs Todd Rathner testified in support of HB2584, which would repeal the existing Kansas ban on switchblades, dirks and daggers, and which also enacts knife law preemption.

     The committee should act on the bill in the coming days. In the meantime it is important to contact the committee members and respectfully request that they support HB2584. For more information on how to contact those members, click on http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2011_12/committees/ctte_h_corr_juv_jus_1/

    For more information on Knife Rights, click on www.KnifeRights.org.

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A Special Knife for a President

On this Presidents Day, we are honored to show you a knife American Bladesmith Society master smith John Horrigan made for and presented to President George W. Bush on Dec. 4, 2009.

    John’s twin brother Robert, also a knifemaker and a member of the U.S. Army 7th Special Forces Group, was killed in action in Iraq on June 17, 2005. John met with President Bush a week after Robert’s death, and it was then he promised the knife to Mr. Bush.

    A spectacular bowie with a mosaic damascus blade forged with images of Old Glory and engraved with the words “To the Fallen,” the knife remains a reminder of Robert Horrigan and others who have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country.

    For more information contact John Horrigan at www.eliteknives.com.

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The Lockback Takes a Lickin’ and Keeps On Lockin’

A representative example of a mid-lockback is the Spyderco C10 Endura, here in a plain edge and reversible pocket clip. (Spyderco photo)

Dating back half a millennium, the lockback is special and timeless

By Mike Haskew, BLADE® field editor

One of the most popular of folder locking mechanisms, the lockback is proof positive that everything old is new again. Most knife enthusiasts are aware of the influence the lockback has had for what is going on 60 years now, even though its origin goes back much further. Its ease of carry, safety and durability make for a winning knife, and in both the factory and custom segments of the industry, the lockback continues as a staple of production, craftsmanship and sales.

    “You can make the lockback strong and heavy duty,” remarked Blade Magazine Cutlery Hall-Of-Fame© member Sal Glesser of Spyderco. “We built a special machine to test and break stuff, and [the lockback] is a very heavy-duty lock at up to 200-inch pounds of strength for every inch of blade. By its geometry, the lockback is capable of as much strength as you build into it.”

    Glesser cites a couple of additional reasons for the rise and popularity of the lockback. The lockback spring can be easily positioned so it will not close inadvertently on the user, while the mechanism itself is easy to operate.

    “The lockback has evolved over time,” Glesser explained. “The configuration of the locking bar changed in the mid-’70s after Harvey McBurnette showed Al Mar how to do that. Now, there are front, mid and rear lockbacks, and the advantage of the lockback produced by Al Mar is that the kicker of the blade is located where the lock pivot is, so the edge of the blade did not hit the spring. We asked Al for permission to use his lock on our early knives and still use a lock that is essentially the same to this day.”

    One concern for the lockback has been the level of engineering required in its construction. “The lockback is an engineering challenge,” Sal concluded, “and shortening the [lock bar for the front- and mid-lockback models] makes it even harder to do. Because it is difficult to make, we have worked as recently as the last two years on refining the lock to virtually eliminate play in the blade.”

Lockback Lineage

Despite or perhaps because of its requirement for tight tolerances, the lockback has a substantial lineage. According to Bill Claussen, co-author of Sheffield Exhibition Knives, the lockback has been around in various forms since 15th-century Spain. Other European cutlers—including the French, Italians and English—have produced lockback variants during the past 500 years or so.

    In the modern era, Claussen cites the Buck 110 folding hunter, which hit the market in 1964, as an industry icon. “It changed the face of modern pocketknives,” he commented. “Although lockbacks had been introduced to the U.S. for more than 200 years, they were not made affordable and convenient in mass production until Al Buck introduced his knife. This knife was quickly adopted by sportsmen, tradesmen, truckers and other workmen as an ideal, all-around, heavy-duty work knife. Vintage 110s are hard to find today, and one in mint condition will cost a small fortune if you can find one.”

    Chairman of the board at Buck Knives, Cutlery Hall-Of-Famer Chuck Buck recognizes the pivotal role the 110 has played in modern lockback development, and acknowledges the challenges that surrounded the original premise of a practical production lockback. “The lockback actually is a bar that goes across the back of the blade with the spring under it, and when you push down on the bar it rocks on a stainless rivet,” he said. “So, that was always hard to get exact because you did not want it to be loose and it needed to fit perfectly.

    “You need to do fine blanking of the blades to achieve that and for years components had been machined, but with fine blanking you can get that done. We worked with the design for quite a few months, and it was all new to us. That was in 1963. The first knives on the market totaled about 250 in 1964, and then in 1965 we ended up making about 10,000 of them. It just grew from there. The 110 continues to be one of our most popular knives, and we are producing them now at a rate of over 1,000 per day. We have a whole crew that just makes the 110 folding hunter. To Buck, it has been something that has sold every year, and it just keeps getting better.”

    Over the years, there have been a few tweaks to the lockback design of the Buck 110. For example, during the 1970s it was discovered users were placing a great deal of pressure on the blade and the brass rivet in the mechanism itself was shearing. The brass rivet was replaced with a stainless steel component, and the 110 continues to sell well around the world. From large retailers to mom-and-pop hardware stores, from Main Street to Moscow, the Buck 110 is a knife user’s mainstay.

No Excess Motion

From a custom perspective, knifemaker Steve Hoel has wrestled with the lockback in his shop. “They’ve been making lockbacks for years, and everybody is making them now,” he remarked. “If the lockbacks are engineered right and the angles are right, then you have no excess motion. It’s simple to operate and strong, and can be done without a lot of expensive equipment. The lockback can be made with nothing more than a file if you know what you’re doing. They’re tough but, if they’re made right, you can eliminate all the slop and rattle.

    “I don’t think there are a lot of big weaknesses in the lockback. They’re more complicated to make right than a LinerLock™, and you’ve got to understand some engineering principles. It isn’t rocket science, but there’s some science involved, and Ron Lake [helped write] a book [How To Make Folding Knives] that you can read to help make a good knife. You can come up with some mechanisms that will work well and are reasonably simple, but you can’t scale them down to a small knife without running into problems. A lot of the strength of the lockback depends on the width of the lock bar and the position in front, back or above the blade. If you don’t pay attention, you can get down to some weak points.”

    The lockback mechanism itself, particularly among custom makers, has seen some streamlining and refinement over the years. While the principles are constant, improvements relate to the availability of better materials and higher-quality fit and finish. Some older lockbacks could not stand up to a lot of hard work and were clunky or overbuilt.

    “I started out taking old knives apart and fixing them and modifying things in them,” Hoel recalled. “If you back up 60 or 70 years ago, the old pocketknives had 90/1000ths holes with 84/1000ths pins in those holes a lot of times, so it was not like using a taper pin or bushing that holds things solid. The ones we make now are more solid, primarily through better craftsmanship and materials that have evolved.”

The Human Element

Claussen asserts another aspect of the popularity of folding knives and of lockbacks in particular has to do with human nature. “It’s their mystique,” he related. “People seem to have a fascination for complicated things, plain and simple. This is generally true in life and very specifically in the collecting field. Watches, clocks and other collectibles are favored because of their complication. The general rule, with all things being equal, is that the more complications, the more desirability, hence greater value. To have a locking feature with a knife definitely adds mystique, aura and increased value.”

    Perhaps therein lies the secret to the success of the Buck 110 and other production or custom lockback folders that have reached such prominence. Practical, strong lockup increases safety and security in operation. Folding knives carry more easily than fixed blades, and it can be argued that their deployment is somewhat easier than that of a fixed blade in certain situations. Modern materials and knifemaker experience have enhanced the quality of the lockback on all fronts, and the mechanism has become accessible to the general public like never before.

    Still, there is something about that tight, solid lock, the feel in the hand of the user, which makes the lockback so special and so timeless.

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17th Annual Arkansas Custom Knife Show This Weekend

ABS master smith Jerry Fisk will be one of several makers exhibiting at this weekend’s Arkansas Custom Knife Show. Fisk’s “Sendero” hunter features the maker’s dog-star-pattern damascus blade steel and a mammoth ivory handle. The engraving is by the maker. (Chuck Ward photo)

    Some of the world’s top bladesmiths and knifemakers will descend on Little Rock, Arkansas, this Saturday and Sunday for the 17th Annual Arkansas Custom Knife Show.

    The show will be held in the Robinson Center Exhibit Hall at Markham & Broadway in downtown Little Rock. There will be 150 tables, of which 102 will have various styles and sizes of custom knives. The balance of tables will have knifemaking supplies, leather products, and knife-related books.

    Among makers slated to exhibit are Russ Andrews, Jim Batson, Tim Britton, Bruce Bump, Joel Chamblin, Jim Crowell, Jerry Fisk, Don Hanson III, Jerry Lairson, Shawn McIntyre, Ron Newton, Cliff Parker, Lin Rhea, Kyle Royer, Brian Thie, Brion Tomberlin, Jim Walker, John White, Mike Williams and many more.

    Show hours are 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Saturday and 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. Sunday. Admission is $5, which is good for both days.

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