Knife Collecting

Knife collecting is an extremely rewarding experience for knife enthusiasts. There truly is a knife for everyone. Many increase or hold their value throughout the years, making collecting knives something to pass on to the next generation of knife collectors.

What To Ask/Not Ask a Knifemaker

Don't ask a maker how long it took him to make a knife.
Knowing what not to ask a knifemaker is almost as important as knowing what to ask him. (Point Seven photo)

When you buy a knife from a knifemaker, it’s your money and you have the right to ask him or her any question—within reason—about the knife. However, there are certain questions we recommend you ask and others we recommend you don’t ask. For instance:

•Don’t ask how long it took to make the knife. Why? For one, depending on the maker’s expertise and equipment, some knifemaking operations may take some makers longer than others. Some makers may have equipment that performs a knifemaking operation faster, or some makers may simply be faster than others. Besides, how long it takes to make something doesn’t always translate into it being better or worse. It’s the quality of the end product that matters, not how long it took to make it. Besides, the question is usually one asked by people new to knives—and you don’t want to look like a knife newbie, right? Professional makers who have been around many years have heard the question umpteen times, and while some makers are patient and will answer it, it’s a good way to get off on the wrong foot with others. And it’s almost always good to get off on the right foot with anyone, including knifemakers.

•If a price for a knife seems high, don’t ask incredulously, “That knife cost HOW much?” Most knifemakers take their work seriously. They know how much talent and work goes into a knife or how much the knife brings on the market—and some knives bring four figures and higher. If the price seems too high, simply acknowledge it or nod your head, thank the maker for his time and move on.

•Things to ask the maker include how long he’s been making knives; how he tests his knives for cutting ability; why he outfits a knife with a certain feature or how he achieved it/made it that way, such as a flat grind vs. a hollow grind, blade temper line, etc.; whether he’s a full or part time maker; does he accept custom orders and how long his waiting list is; and what knifemaking training he’s had or knifemaking schools he’s attended. There are others but this is a start.

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You Know Your Knifemakers, but Do You Know Knife Laws?

Knife Laws of the US bookKnife Laws of the U.S., by renowned knife rights attorney Evan Nappen, is an indispensable guide to the legal issues every knife enthusiast should understand. It’s not just a book of laws, though. Nappen expertly explains the history behind knife regulation, the state of mind to have when dealing with law enforcement and the legal traps that are all too easy to fall into.

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New BLADE: Makers To Watch in 2015!

Kirby Lambert resumes his perennial presence on the to-watch list of Neil Ostroff of True North Knives with such models as the Prototype Crossroads flipper in CTS XHP stainless steel, a Mokuti handle with zirconium bolsters and an IKBS bearing system. (TNK image)
Kirby Lambert resumes his perennial presence on the to-watch list of Neil Ostroff of True North Knives with such models as the Prototype Crossroads flipper in CTS XHP stainless steel, a Mokuti handle with zirconium bolsters and an IKBS bearing system. (TNK image)
Dave Stark of Steel Addiction Custom Knives said two of knifemaker Lee Williams’ protégés are gaining attention quickly: Daniel Galloway and Pat Hammond. A collaboration with Williams, Galloway’s Mongoose is the cover knife of the March 2015 issue of BLADE®. Galloway’s price: $1,600. (Kris Kandler image)
Dave Stark of Steel Addiction Custom Knives said two of knifemaker Lee Williams’ protégés are gaining attention quickly: Daniel Galloway and Pat Hammond. A collaboration with Williams, Galloway’s Mongoose is the cover knife of the March 2015 issue of BLADE®. Galloway’s price: $1,600. (Kris Kandler image)

Who will be the knifemakers to watch in 2015? How sharp is one of the hottest new knife steels in the industry? What were the most important knife stories of 2014? Learn the answers to these questions and much more in the new BLADE®, on newsstands today!

Some of the USA’s top custom knife purveyors were polled for the knifemakers to watch in the new year, with one of those makers, Daniel Galloway, having his “Mongoose” collaboration knife with Lee Williams serving as this issue’s cover piece. See who the other makers are, along with some of their top work, in the new BLADE on page 12.

The high-carbon steel known as 80CrV2 is among the newer and hotter blade materials among custom knifemakers especially.

Follow ABS master smith and BLADE field editor Joe Szilaski as he makes a knife of the steel and tries it out in his knifemaking and knife-using instructional, “How Sharp Is 80CrV2?”

The year past has seen many highlights and lowlights, from the landmark announcement by the Knifemakers’ Guild and the American Bladesmith Society that, after almost 40 years of jousting, they will finally hold their first annual combined knife show in 2015, trends—or were they just fads?—in the industry, to the back-and-forth between the federal government and legal ivory owners over changes in ivory regulations. Get the scoop on these happenings and more in “’14’s Blades of Grey.”

While on the subject of ivory, award-winning knifemaker Jim Hammond has made knives for decades, a number with ivory and ancient ivory handles.

Not only did he conduct an in-depth seminar on ivory at the 2014 BLADE Show, he also volunteered to write a three-part story on the past, present and future of the misunderstood substance. Check out part one in the new BLADE on page 78.

KnifeArt’s Larry Connelley said Duane Dwyer’s reputation for knife innovation helps place him among the makers to watch in the coming year. Dwyer’s SnG with a titanium frame carries a KnifeArt price of $1,200. (KnifeArt image)
KnifeArt’s Larry Connelley said Duane Dwyer’s reputation for knife innovation helps place him among the makers to watch in the coming year. Dwyer’s SnG with a titanium frame carries a KnifeArt price of $1,200. (KnifeArt image)

There’s much more in this issue, including the latest in big flipper folders, profiles of Masecraft Supply and Pohl Force Knives, a test of two compact custom axes, four hot factory slip joints, HEPK master smith and BLADE field editor Ed Fowler’s essay on how knifemakers must follow their inner muse in “It Takes Courage To Be Yourself,” and much more, all in the March BLADE.


New BLADE on newsstands now!Check out the custom knifemakers to watch in 2015 in the new BLADE®, on newsstands now!

 

Merritt-Loveless Knives Do Indeed Hold Merit

“The Loveless knife design is all about function,” Jim Merritt once noted. “A Loveless knife is made for the guy who wants to have the best knife possible for field work.” Merritt worked side-by-side with Loveless in his shop for 30 years, and toward the end was making Loveless’s knives on his own, with Bob pitching in and helping whenever he could.

This pair is a prime example of the combined efforts of Bob Loveless and Jim Merritt. Their skill as knifemakers is simply without peer.

The knife photo is by Durwood Hollis and was used in the book he authored titled Knifemaking With Bob Loveless.

Two Outdoors Knives for When You’re “Out in the Bush”

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3 Key Outfitters SP5

The SP5 is an all-purpose field knife designed to perform a variety of tasks while out in the bush. It utilizes a spear-point design combined with a 90-degree edge spine that’s ideal for scraping and shaving.

The long, cord-wrapped handle provides great leverage and a full grip while maintaining a slim, controllable profile.

  • MSRP: $215 Blade + $40 Leather Sheath (Made by JRE Industries)
  • Steel: 80CRV2
  • Blade Shape: Spearpoint Convex
  • Overall Length: 10.75”
  • Thickness: .25”
  • Cutting Edge: 5”
  • Handle: Cord wrap sealed in bio-resin
  • Where to Get It: 3keyoutfitters.com

3 Key Outfitters Marine Rigging Spike

Outdoors marlinspike
All of 3 Key Outfitters’s marlinspikes are made by hand one at a time.

The Marine Rigging Spike, aka “the Missus,” is 3 Key Outfitters‘s take on the classic marlinspike. Made of 80CRV2 and coming in at roughly HRC 60, these spikes get full heat-treating and tempering, just like 3 Key Outfitters‘s knives.

As a nice touch, there is a handle wrap for texture on the non-business end and a bio-resin seal under the wrap to help prevent rusting.

The MRS is the perfect tool for ropes and knots. It works as a universal awl, carpenter scribe, a knife hone and a hanger nail. Plus, all spikes come with a custom cap to protect the point.

  • MSRP: $30
  • Steel: 80CRV2
  • Overall Length: 6” or 8”
  • Thickness: .25”
  • Grip: Cord wrap sealed in bio-resin
  • Where to Get It: 3keyoutfitters.com

Photos: 8 Red-Hot Forged Knives 

Robbins Fighter

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This Landon Robbins fixed blade in 1084 carbon steel won Best Fighter at the Branson Hammer-In & Knife Show. (Chuck Ward image)

Today’s red-hot forged knives include some of the best in utility and other patterns, most all in blades of high-carbon steels such as 5160, 1095, 52100 and others. Though the steels are not classified as stainless, you can control the pitting and rust on the blades by simply wiping them down after each use. No biggy, really, if you think about it. Properly heat treated and ground, the blades are easy to sharpen and cut like bandits.

Here are eight knives hot from the forge, starting with a sexy fighter in 1084 carbon steel by American Bladesmith Society journeyman smith Landon Robbins of Crane, Missouri. The understated hamon or temper line of the clip-point blade, S-guard and “dropped” blackwood handle make this puppy stand out—and it also took home the award for Best Fighter at the recent Branson Hammer-In & Knife Show.

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David C. Lemoine embellishes the blade of 5160 on his drop-point hunter with a short burst of filework on the spine. A single mosaic pin accents the contrasting brown and black lacewood bird’s beak handle. Overall length: 8.25 inches. A pouch sheath completes the package.

ABS master smith Don Fogg says a sign of a well-done hamon is one that stands out and is easy to describe. We christen the hamon on the W2 tool steel blade of ABS journeyman smith Tad Lynch‘s bowie “thundercloud” for its resemblance to an oncoming storm. The handle is Micarta®. Overall length: 14.5 inches.

Lyons and tigers and bears—oh my! In this instance the Lyons is ABS journeyman smith Bill Lyons of Palisade, Nebraska, maker of a slick hunter with a deep-bellied blade of 5160. The silver-wire-inlaid handle is separated from the blade by a minimalist guard. Overall length: 7.5 inches. The knife includes a leather belt sheath.

ABS journeyman smith Don McIntosh captures the “Musso Style Bowie” in a brass-backed blade of 5160 carbon steel and an ironwood handle. The brass guard and ferrule augment the blade’s brass back. For those unaware, “Musso” refers to bowie authority Joe Musso, who reportedly has every prop knife used in the early 1950s classic movie about BLADE Magazine Cutlery Hall-Of-Fame© member Jim Bowie, The Iron Mistress, the film that inspired many a knifemaking legend to build knives.

ABS master smith Jerry Lairson enjoyed past success on the cutting competition circuit and parlays some of that experience into his kukri in 5160 carbon blade steel and an ironwood handle. The kukri designs lends itself to chopping, one of the main requirements of any good competition cutter. Overall length: 16 inches.

Raymon Hunt of Irving, Texas, chose O1 tool steel for the 5.25 inch blade of his boot dagger. A silver ferrule separates the knife’s double-ground blade from the ebony coffin handle. Overall length: 9.75 inches. Boot daggers, a very popular style in the early days of the modern custom knife movement, aren’t seen much anymore, so Mr. Hunt’s offering is a welcome window on a bygone style long overdue for a comeback.

Another carbon steel blade with an understated hamon—this time in 1095—highlights Joel Austin‘s bowie. The straight-back blade and Spartan features make this a knife we could see Jim Bowie wearing back in the day walking down some dark alley in Natchez-Under-The-Hill, Mississippi. The handle is ironwood. Overall length: 13 inches.

How to Buy Custom Knives Without Getting Ripped Off

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If the knife is well made, it will always have value. Josh Fisher’s bowie features a damascus blade of 1084 carbon and 15N20 nickel-alloy steels, and a handle of curly Tasmanian black wood. (Caleb Royer image)

Thinking of dipping your toe into the exciting world of collecting custom knives? Read these tips first.

What for Look for in a Custom Knife

Don’t buy or collect trends. Buying what’s “hot” today may mean selling at a loss tomorrow. Buy a knife because you like it, not because you think it will increase in value. If the knife is well made, it will always have value.

Decide what the knife will be used for and choose accordingly. Is it pleasing to your eye? Hold it and see how it feels in your hand.

Is it easy to carry? Is the edge geometry correct and are the grind lines even? Are there gaps at joints between the blade and guard? On a folder is there too much blade play—up and down and/or side to side?

Does the knife walk and talk? What about fit and finish?

Price custom folding knives
Is the edge geometry correct and are the grind lines even? Are there gaps at joints between the blade and guard? Don Hanson’s folders exhibit tight fit and finish from stem to stern. (SharpByCoop image)

On a linerlock or framelock does the lock engage too late or too early? Is lockup tight? Feel the knife all over for hot spots and evaluate it in terms of quality construction and materials, creativity, etc.

If the knife is a fixed blade, a sheath can add value. However, the knife needs a sheath only if it is important to you, though it may affect resale value. A good sheath can cost $75 to $150 to have one made, so this is a good benchmark of value detraction.

On the other hand, some sheaths can be distinctive works of art that can add significantly to the knife’s overall appeal and value.

Buying custom fixed blade knives
If the knife is a fixed blade, a sheath can add value. However, the knife needs a sheath only if it is important to you, though it may affect resale value. Zac Camacho offers a sheath with his zesty fixed blade in damascus and a handle of stabilized ancient bog oak. Overall length: 13.875 inches. (Caleb Royer edited image)

Commissioning a Completely New Custom Knife

Be wary of custom orders, as many things can go wrong, including long wait times before delivery, and makers who shun lengthy dialogue over what might be a healthy monetary investment on your part. Moreover, the finished knife may not meet your expectations.

Custom orders may be best for makers early in their careers. Veteran makers may wind up making a custom order that doesn’t represent their style, so the knife may not increase in value.

Place an order with enough time to pick the knife up at a time that works for you, such as during BLADE Show.

Determining Price of a Custom Knife

Tips for buying custom knives
If you pay a high price for a knife, see if the maker has been in business for a number of years, has a strong following and that the knife is something special. Such a knife should be made of materials of a higher quality/more in demand than a less
expensive model. An art dagger by Dennis Friedly with engraving by Gil Rudolph would appear to qualify on most all of these counts. (SharpByCoop image)

Never be afraid to ask a maker, purveyor or any seller why a knife costs what it does. Ask him/her for some background and history on the knife, both of which can embellish a knife’s value, especially if the knife is a vintage one.

If you pay a high price for a knife, see if the maker has been in business for a number of years, has a strong following and that the knife is something special. Such a knife should be made of materials of a higher quality/more in demand than a less expensive model.
If the maker is just starting out, be sure his knives are priced reasonably.

If the knife appears to be underpriced, be sure there’s not a mistake in its construction.

For a guide, check the prices of like knives on the sites of purveyors who have been in the business for a long time. They wouldn’t still be in business if they didn’t offer reasonable pricing.

Are Deposits Necessary?

One purveyor said you should never pay an upfront deposit on a custom order. No exceptions. Watch out for makers who claim to need the deposit to buy materials, etc. You are not a finance company.

Besides, as one purveyor said, “It’s unfortunately very human that it’s hard to get work done that is already paid for.”

Warranties

Ask for a written guarantee regarding what the maker will and will not cover in terms of damage caused by use/abuse, flaws in workmanship or materials (excluding natural materials that chip and crack), etc.

The warranty should last for the remainder the maker’s career.

Knife Collecting: The History of the Camillus M3

Camillus Cutlery History

To understand the Camillus M3, you need to know a bit about the history of the company that originally designed it.

It all ended for the original Camillus on February 2007. The old Camillus went gone out of business due to poor sales, a workers’ strike and a lockout—and then the long-time knife manufacturer filed for bankruptcy. Acme United Corporation bought the company’s brand name and intellectual property rights, relaunching the Camillus brand in 2009.

Camillus hadn’t always had business problems. The company was founded by Charles Sherwood in 1876 and became a good candidate for buying when the Dingley Tariff Act, which greatly raised the import duty on knives, was enacted in 1897. The company then had 20 employees.

Camillus M3 knives
This issue’s cover knife, here’s the one of six “Salesman’s Sample” M3s Camillus made in the early 1990s that Bill Adams found in a bucketful of leftovers he bought at the auction of the old company in 2007. According to Phil Gibbs, who worked at Camillus when the one of six M3 was produced, it was “truly handmade” in the Camillus Model Shop. (Terry Moss image)

The War Years

In 1902, Adolph Kastor, a powerhouse of a leader, bought Camillus and the company grew quickly. Camillus had grown to over 200 employees by 1910 and produced over 900,000 knives that year alone. During World War I, the manufacturer cranked out over 470,000 knives for the U.S., British, Canadian and Dutch governments.

The company continued to do well during the ’20s and ’30s. It had knife contracts with Sears Roebuck & Co., Shapleigh Hardware, Simmons Hardware and Woolworth. In fact, in the ’30s Camillus had the reputation of being the highest quality maker of knives in the United States.

During World War II, the company made over 15 million knives for the U.S. Armed Forces. Throughout the Vietnam War, Camillus produced the GI four-blade utility knife, the pilot survival knife andthe U.S. Marine Corps 7-inch Mark II

(Author’s note: Camillus had developed the Mark II during World War II, and made more Mark II’s than anyone else, though the Marines stillcalled the Camillus-designed Mark II knife “the Ka-Bar.”)

The New-and-Improved Camillus M3

In the 1980s, the U.S. Armed Forces discussed improving the M3. Then in issue to troops, the M3 having been first produced and issued in 1943.

Of course, that was very interesting to Camillus—the company had designed the M3 in 1942—and military contracts, with additional sales in the commercial market to users and collectors, would be very welcome.

The Camillus prototype shop started work on improving the new M3 design. Most everyone thought the blade was OK as it was—6.5 inches long, .85 inch wide and made of carbon steel.

Camillus Mark III Mark 3 knives
(Top) Most everyone thought the blade of the original M3 was OK as it was—6.5 inches long, .85 inch wide and made of carbon steel. As a result, the blade of the newer M3 maintained the same specs. (Bottom) The stacked leather handle of the “newer and improved” M3 has five grooves and is longer (4.7 inches) than the World War II original. (Terry Moss images)

The stacked leather handle had five grooves and was longer (4.7 inches) than the World War II version of the knife. The handle diameter was larger (1.2 inches wide) and had a pinned-on stepped pommel 1.35 inches wide.

The guard was a little wider than the one on the World War II knife. The lower leg/quillon was marked on the front with a capital “M” in a circle over the number “4.” The new design M3 weighed 9 ounces finished.

Camillus M3 knife
(Left) The guard of the newer M3 design is a little wider than the World War II knife. The lower leg/quillon is marked on the front with a capital “M” in a circle over the number “4.” (Right) The handle diameter of the newer M3 is larger (1.2 inches wide) than the original and has a pinned-on stepped pommel 1.35 inches wide. (Terry Moss images)

One of the things the U.S. Armed Forces learned in Vietnam was the importance of guarding against mold and insects—leather handles had deteriorated quickly in the jungle.

As a result, the new knife’s handle was saturated with deterrent. It would use the current fiberglass M8A1 sheath, the same sheath in issue for the M7 bayonet.

The M3 was born again.

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