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Japanese Blades: Mystique Of The East

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Japanese blades have enchanted and endured for centuries with no end in sight.

The lure of the Eastern style has captivated cutlery artisans for centuries, and interpretations of it remain alive and well, blending tradition seamlessly with modern techniques and materials while staying true to their roots in Japanese culture. While there is plenty of skill required and the artist’s eye lends its perspective, custom knifemakers continue to produce wonderful examples in fusions of blade, tsuka (handle) and furniture—and they are quick to explain the reasons why.

Denis Tyrell

Denis Tyrell’s aptly named Silver Moon katana features a 29-inch blade that is pure silver laminated: damascus over silver with an 80CrV2 carbon steel core. The traditionally wrapped tsuka (handle) has silver and mild steel fittings and silver inlay. The tsuba (guard) is mild steel. Overall length: 40 inches. Tyrell’s price for a similar sword: $9,500.
Quite a Japanese blade! Denis Tyrell’s aptly named Silver Moon katana features a 29-inch blade that is pure silver laminated: damascus over silver with an 80CrV2 carbon steel core. The traditionally wrapped tsuka (handle) has silver and mild steel fittings and silver inlay. The tsuba (guard) is mild steel. Overall length: 40 inches. Tyrell’s price for a similar sword: $9,500. (Jocelyn Frasier sword image)

“Japanese blades have both an elegance and a mystique to them,” said maker Denis Tyrell of Livermore, California. “They have subtle curves that really appeal to me. They are also very complex to build and get right—I’m still striving for a higher standard.”

Setting out on a creative path that brought modern and traditional methods together, Tyrell made great strides toward that standard in his Silver Moon katana. “I appreciate all the complex fittings on these swords, so I try to keep to that mix,” he noted. “The blade is where I step out a bit more into the modern, using damascus steel and other techniques to really show it off.”

The result of Tyrell’s effort succeeds in highlighting the 29-inch damascus blade and handle wrapped in faux leather. The fittings are silver, while the guard is mild steel with silver inlay. The blade presents something of a surprise with its damascus cladding over silver with a solid core of 80CrV2 carbon steel. To preserve the integrity of the damascus, the blade was not heat treated. The sword is 40 inches overall and the blade grind is convex.

“The melting point of silver is 1,763 degrees Fahrenheit,” Denis added, “so it’s challenging to forge that together with the damascus cladding and core without melting it. I also found getting the fittings perfect so a single pressure-fitted peg will hold it all together with no slack to be a challenge.” Denis said the Silver Moon sold for $9,500. The owner has invested in an authentic Japanese-style sword that not only exhibits great talent but also pays tribute to the historical appeal of those produced in the past.

Drew Lininger

A hollow-ground blade of AEB-L stainless steel and a jade-green G-10 handle highlight Drew Lininger’s Tanto Kwaiken. His price for a similar piece: $400.
A hollow-ground blade of AEB-L stainless steel and a jade-green G-10 handle highlight Drew Lininger’s Tanto Kwaiken. His price for a similar piece: $400. (Jocelyn Frasier knife image)

Drew Lininger of Belgrade, Montana, honed his knifemaking skills further with his Tanto Kwaiken, a stylized version of the small, single-edged dagger carried by the Samurai for close self-defense.

“I love slimmer, more streamlined knives, and the Japanese style really appeals to me with its simple lines that make for a complex knife,” he related. “I also like how you can scale the designs easily. You can basically make the same knife in multiple sizes without having to change anything but the dimensions.”

The Tanto Kwaiken has a 4-inch blade and 8.25-inch overall length. Drew decided on AEB-L stainless blade steel complemented with a handle of jade-colored G-10, its fibers presenting a pleasant textured look approaching the ricasso. The guard is Grade 5 titanium. The most difficult aspect of the knife’s production was succeeding with the precision required for the numerous angles and lines to meet at the same apex without variation on all sides of the handle.

One departure from tradition is the blade grind. “It is a 6-inch hollow grind,” Drew commented, “definitely not standard for traditional kwaikens. I had originally seen the full hollow grind on some folding knives and wanted to try it on a kwaiken.”

Jim Perkins

Jim Perkins’ wakizashi takes down by removal of the pin from the Japanese maple handle. The 19-inch blade is 1,724 layers of 1095 carbon and 15N20 nickel alloy steels. Overall length: 28.25 inches. Jim’s price for a similar piece and saya (scabbard) is around $2,500.
Jim Perkins’ wakizashi takes down by removal of the pin from the Japanese maple handle. The 19-inch blade is 1,724 layers of 1095 carbon and 15N20 nickel alloy steels. Overall length: 28.25 inches. Jim’s price for a similar piece and saya (scabbard) is around $2,500. (SharpByCoop knife image)

Jim Perkins of Garden City, Kansas, built a superb wakizashi at 28.25 inches overall with a 19-inch damascus blade consisting of 1,724 layers of 1095 carbon and 15N20 nickel alloy steels. The stunning blade is accented with copper habaki (collar), seppa (spacer) and tsuba (guard), and a handle of gleaming Japanese maple. Jim’s price for a similar sword would be around $2,500, and he likely would relish the opportunity to take another stab at such a piece.

“For me, the appeal of the Japanese style is in the history and the flow of the traditional blades,” he offered, “along with challenging myself to make the symmetry of mine as aesthetically pleasing to the eye as possible. If you look at traditional Japanese blades, you see a natural beauty that has been a tradition of the master smiths who have made them. It is hard not to be inspired by their work.”

Giving a nod to his preference for modern materials, Jim also takes advantage of some conveniences in the shop. “Since I’m a bit older, the hydraulic press is invaluable,” he explained. “It saves my shoulder from the abuse hammering out the steel would inflict. That said, while I am working the steel I try to keep in my mind’s eye the process the masters might have used, and attempt to honor their traditions the best I can using modern materials and methods. Examples of this would be that I ‘bed’ the tang in the handle and my milgraining treatment to the tsuba.”

Jim describes the wakizashi as full takedown with the removal of the handle pin. He fits the tang to each side of the handle using a saya nomi, Japanese for scabbard chisel, made by Walter Sorrells. Afterward, Jim glues the handle sides together for fitting to the tang, applies petroleum jelly to the fittings and the tang, and fills the handle cavity with epoxy, which he allows to cure for approximately three hours.

From there he removes the handle from the tang, cleans off the petroleum jelly, and resets the handle in the tang to allow final setup. Jim works the tsuba with a hammer from the center toward the edge, and hammers a design into the material with a small ball-pein hammer. In this particular case, he finalized a textured finish on the engraving bench with a milgrain tool.

“I allow the copper tsuba, seppa and habaki to patina naturally through handling as opposed to using a chemical application,” Jim said, “and I would be remiss not to mention the meticulous requirements of prepping the steel for each forging session. Keeping the steel as pristine as possible for the next forging session to eliminate any forge welding failures is tremendously important. The discipline required to do this increases as the layer count goes up, but it is an absolute necessity to avoid disappointment in myself or the final product.”

Kieren McNeilly

An 11-inch blade forged from W2 tool steel sporting a slanted choji (clover-tree flower) hamon and a raw stingray hide handle top off Kieren McNeilly’s traditional tanto. The stingray hide underwent no dying or tanning to keep it nice and hard. Overall length: 16.5 inches.
An 11-inch blade forged from W2 tool steel sporting a slanted choji (clover-tree flower) hamon and a raw stingray hide handle top off Kieren McNeilly’s traditional tanto. The stingray hide underwent no dying or tanning to keep it nice and hard. Overall length: 16.5 inches. (Rod Hoare knife image)

Capitalizing on available media such as books and YouTube videos while also talking with other makers, Kieren McNeilly of Warwick, Queensland, Australia, stepped into Japanese-style knifemaking with optimism. “I highly recommend anyone thinking about making one to just go out and do the same,” he smiled.

McNeilly’s work is a reflection of other aspects of his life. “My house has touches of Japanese art all around, from Samurai masks to antique tsuba and more things not related to knives,” he said. “Japanese knives are simple, well-thought-out designs, all built for a purpose. I’m also a big fan of a satin or polished finish on a blade with contrasting forged texture, which is another common thing you see in Japanese knives. Same for the swords. All parts of the katana serve a purpose, from differential heat treatment of the blade to the ray skin down to the mekugi [pin] that holds it all together.”

McNeilly’s traditional style tanto is 16.5 inches overall with an 11-inch blade forged from W2 tool steel. The saya (scabbard) is buffalo horn and the handle is raw stingray hide. The latter did not go through any dyeing or tanning process, which keeps the material hard and stiff.

“Three areas of this knife gave me issues,” he related. “The first was the heat treatment when the water quench failed. Luckily, I had no cracks. The blade didn’t fully harden, so as an easy fix I went back through my normalization cycles, clayed the blade again and then quenched it in oil.

“The second issue was the constant attention needed to get the width and diameter of the handle and saya to match as closely as possible when sheathed, with perfect fit-up and zero gaps. Lastly was working with the raw stingray hide. The calcium nodules are extremely hard and make cutting the material difficult. The hide also has to be soaked in water to take shape around the handle.”

To solve the problem of gaps developing as the raw stingray hide dried, McNeilly used masking tape to add mass to the handle and then removed the tape to allow the hide to shrink to the proper position. “It left just enough space for the hide to shrink that last little bit,” he remembered, “and this still took me a few attempts to get it right.”

Using a combination of Japanese and Western methods and materials, Kieren achieved magnificent results. “I have not used tamahagane, a precious bloomery steel, and if I were to, I would make a point to use all traditional materials and more traditional techniques,” he concluded. “Synthetic materials like G-10 and Micarta® work great as substitutes for more traditional materials like bone or horn, although I love how horn and bone can add a lot of character to a piece.”

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Custom Knives: Synthetic Handles That Turn Heads

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We collected a group of custom creations that showcase the leaps in synthetic handles.

When you think synthetic handle materials, factory knives probably come to mind. However, synthetics play a larger role in custom knives all the time. Synthetic handles don’t swell or crack from the elements like some natural materials and are outstanding for use. As reflected by the pieces on this and the facing page, they look pretty good, too.


Darriel Caston Ultem

Darriel Caston Ultem

Ultem comprises the grip of Darriel Caston’s fixed utility model in CPM S35VN stainless steel. Blade and overall lengths: 4 and 9 inches. Sheath: Kydex. (SharpByCoop image)


Michael Jarvis Pocket Bowie XL

Michael Jarvis Pocket Bowie XL

A G-10 coffin handle steers the AEB-L stainless blade of the Pocket Bowie XL by Michael Jarvis. (Jocelyn Frasier image)


Dustin Driver WISC

Dustin Driver WISC

Dustin Driver opts for titanium for the handle and frame of his WISC folder. The 3.5-inch blade is hollow-ground CPM MagnaCut stainless steel. Closed length: 4.5 inches. (SharpByCoop image)


Kirby Lambert Phoenix

Kirby Lambert Phoenix

Kirby Lambert’s Phoenix folder sports a handle of Westinghouse Ivorite paper Micarta® with 6Al/4V titanium liners and a 3.25-inch blade of hollow-ground Reptilian damascus by Vegas Forge. Bolster: Timascus™. Closed length: 4.25 inches. (SharpByCoop image)


Maverick Murdock Dress Slip Joint

Maverick Murdock Dress Slip Joint

A handle of black paper Micarta® with straight twist damascus bolsters over a brass frame house a 3-inch blade of CPM 154 stainless on ABS apprentice smith Maverick Murdock’s dress slip joint. Hardware: titanium. Closed length: 4 inches. (SharpByCoop image)


Harold Parsons Skinner

Harold Parsons Skinner

Green Micarta® and G-10 liners highlight the handle of a skinner in 440C stainless steel by Harold Parsons, who also engraved the bolster. Blade and overall lengths: 4.25 and 9 inches. (Jocelyn Frasier image)


Erik Fritz Slip Joint

Erik Fritz Slip Joint

ABS journeyman smith Erik Fritz chose burlap Micarta® with 416 stainless steel liners and bolsters for what for him is a new direction: a slip joint. The 2.75-inch blade is flat-ground CPM 154 stainless. Closed length: 3.75 inches. His price for a similar knife: $500. (Jocelyn Frasier image)


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Choosing The Right Knifemaker

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Veteran collectors discuss what to look for in a top knifemaker.

When it comes to spending your hard-earned dollar, knowing what to look for in a knifemaker provides a perspective that can’t be achieved any other way. The knife itself offers a real, tangible opportunity to assess the workmanship, and a dialogue with the maker—or at least some knowledge of his or her career and standing in the knife community at large—allows for informed decision-making.

“The main thing I look for in a knifemaker is someone with an original design aesthetic,” observed longtime collector Jim Berkenfield. “I always tell up-and-coming makers that they want to create something that can be immediately identified as theirs if it is sitting on a table in the middle of 100 other knives.”

Meanwhile, being mentored by a leading maker is not something Jim looks for in a maker.

“I always tell up-and-coming makers that they want to create something that can be immediately identified as theirs if it is sitting on a table in the middle of 100 other knives,” collector Jim Berkenfield advised. Veteran maker Bertie Rietveld’s Makiti folder in composite dragonskin damascus and gold inlay meets that standard and then some. Closed length: 5 inches. (SharpByCoop image)
“I always tell up-and-coming makers that they want to create something that can be immediately identified as theirs if it is sitting on a table in the middle of 100 other knives,” collector Jim Berkenfield advised. Veteran maker Bertie Rietveld’s Makiti folder in composite dragonskin damascus and gold inlay meets that standard and then some. Closed length: 5 inches. (SharpByCoop image)

“I don’t necessarily think a maker needs to have some well-known mentor or instructor,” he opined. “These days, savvy and creative people can access all the information they need via social media or the internet to get them started down the road to knifemaking.”

The first impression is key to developing any relationship, and finding a maker with his or her own creative voice is an essential component for many.

“Firstly, and most obvious, I have to be drawn to the maker’s work, assuming I don’t really have any previous interaction with the maker,” collector Chris Schluter said. “I think these days social media is certainly an easy and quick way to get some information. There are countless knife groups on Facebook, for example. One could ask in these groups if anyone has had experience with a certain maker or knives. Of course, doing this in person at a show is an option as well.”

Personal Interaction With Knifemakers

Many think it very important for a new maker to attend knife shows. According to collector Chris Schluter, “A show is a great opportunity to get feedback on your knives and also check out other knives and speak to other makers for tips and inspiration.” Chris Losacco (right) of Elemental Forge shows one of his damascus fixed blades to customers at last year’s BLADE Show West.
Many think it very important for a new maker to attend knife shows. According to collector Chris Schluter, “A show is a great opportunity to get feedback on your knives and also check out other knives and speak to other makers for tips and inspiration.” Chris Losacco (right) of Elemental Forge shows one of his damascus fixed blades to customers at last year’s BLADE Show West.

Larry Hirsch, a veteran collector of Lloyd Hale’s work and that of other classic custom makers, sees the value in social media but also understands the benefits of personal interaction across the table at a show.

“I think it’s important for makers to attend knife shows,” he commented. “Meeting people, talking about their work, hobbies, family, ideas, networking and making friends is all part of a successful business. I’ve bought knives from makers that I’ve met at shows and become friends with. I’ve sold off knives from makers that were rude to me at shows.”

Consequently, there is more than just an exchange of cash for steel in the building of a mutually beneficial relationship between maker and customer. Even though it may sometimes be difficult for a maker to attend a show, there are still opportunities to interact.

“I don’t think it’s mandatory for makers to attend shows because knife shows are expensive,” Berkenfield said. “For new knifemakers in particular there is no guarantee that they’ll even sell anything. When a maker is exhibiting at a show, yes, I think it’s important that he engages with people as they walk by—without being pushy. I think the biggest reason knifemakers should try to attend shows is to gain inspiration from other work in the room, acquire materials, and just make some contacts in the industry.”

Larry Hirsch is an experienced collector of the knives of Lloyd Hale. Larry indicated before placing a custom order, ask the maker about the things that are important to you and be sure you get the answers you want. The example of Lloyd’s work is a spectacular sub-hilt in gold-lip and white mother-of-pearl, abalone and 440C stainless steel. (image of Larry Hirsch and Lloyd Hale courtesy of Hirsch; SharpByCoop knife image)
Larry Hirsch is an experienced collector of the knives of Lloyd Hale. Larry indicated before placing a custom order, ask the maker about the things that are important to you and be sure you get the answers you want. The example of Lloyd’s work is a spectacular sub-hilt in gold-lip and white mother-of-pearl, abalone and 440C stainless steel. (image of Larry Hirsch and Lloyd Hale courtesy of Hirsch; SharpByCoop knife image)

It’s entirely possible that young makers seeking to establish themselves could complement their use of social media such as Instagram with regular visits to shows. Visibility is a key in promoting a knifemaking career.

“It’s very important for a newer unknown knifemaker to attend shows,” Schluter advised. “A show is a great opportunity to get feedback on your knives and also check out other knives and speak to other makers for tips and inspiration. I think that this is probably best done in conjunction with a social media presence so any customers or followers know where they can handle some knives ‘live.’”

SPECIAL ORDERS
When a potential buyer wants a special order or the maker has a waiting list, it makes sense to weigh the dynamics of the situation, including whether the maker takes custom orders and whether he or she requires a deposit.

Schluter remarked, “Many say that a true custom knife is a knife made to a customer’s specifications with specific materials. Many makers will do this, of course. However, many makers, especially very ‘in-demand’ ones, will just make what they want and it will sell. And customers will be happy to get anything from that maker. As far as waiting lists and order books go, it’s really up to the maker and not the customer. Someone told me once long ago, ‘There’s real time and there’s knifemaker time.’”

“I think the biggest reason knifemakers should try to attend shows is to gain inspiration from other work in the room, acquire materials and just make some contacts in the industry,” collector Jim Berkenfield said. ABS master smith Kyle Royer (left) and BLADE Magazine Cutlery Hall-of-Fame® member Steve Schwarzer (right) admire the work of an exhibitor at a past BLADE Show. (Whetstone Studio image)
“I think the biggest reason knifemakers should try to attend shows is to gain inspiration from other work in the room, acquire materials and just make some contacts in the industry,” collector Jim Berkenfield said. ABS master smith Kyle Royer (left) and BLADE Magazine Cutlery Hall-of-Fame® member Steve Schwarzer (right) admire the work of an exhibitor at a past BLADE Show. (Whetstone Studio image)

“If a maker says six months, don’t be surprised if it’s a lot longer,” Chris cautioned. “Many makers who are popular simply don’t take orders anymore, though it never hurts to ask nicely even though they state this. Others who do take orders will regularly have wait times in excess of a year. It’s not unheard of to wait several years! I generally don’t like deposits or paying in advance. A small deposit as a sign of good faith or for special materials is not out of the question, though.”

Hirsch doesn’t see a willingness to take custom orders as critical, but he does emphasize the need to manage expectations.

“I have talked to many knifemakers about this, and the ones that don’t take orders have valid reasons for not taking orders,” he explained. “I’ve had the pleasure of working with several knifemakers that do take custom orders and enjoyed the knives that they made for me. Before you ever place an order, you need to ask the maker about the things that are important to you and receive the answers that you want.

“The timeframe for receiving your knife should be reasonable based on the maker’s backlog,” Larry added. “I suggest that if you don’t have the patience to wait longer than expected, don’t custom order a knife. It almost always takes longer than promised or expected.

As noted collector Jim Berkenfield, deposits typically are not required on custom orders, though if the build has expensive materials such as mammoth ivory, he will often offer to pay for it in advance—or even provide the material himself. Schuyler Lovestrand’s curvaceous sub-hilt features a handle of mammoth ivory rich in golds and dark greens. (SharpByCoop image)
As noted collector Jim Berkenfield, deposits typically are not required on custom orders, though if the build has expensive materials such as mammoth ivory, he will often offer to pay for it in advance—or even provide the material himself. Schuyler Lovestrand’s curvaceous sub-hilt features a handle of mammoth ivory rich in golds and dark greens. (SharpByCoop image)

“Deciding on placing a deposit is a very personal decision. Sometimes everything goes perfectly and you’re happy about your decision. Sometimes life, sickness or death prevent a maker from starting or completing your project, and your deposit is lost. When you deal with an individual, it’s not like a factory. There’s no one to take over when the knifemaker is sick or gone, and there’s no company to call to complain or ask for a refund.”

Berkenfield says that depending on the knifemaker it isn’t uncommon to wait two years for a custom knife to be delivered, particularly if the maker is well known and has a following.

“When you’re collecting knives, you need to play the long game in terms of acquiring a piece from a specific maker,” he commented. “Typically, deposits are not required, although if the build has certain expensive materials, for example, mammoth ivory, I will often offer to pay for that in advance or even to provide it myself.”

Questions To Ask

A prospective buyer should not be afraid to ask a maker specific questions about the maker’s operation, a certain knife, or what the prospective buyer’s expectations should be as the proud owner of one of the maker’s pieces.

Does the maker supply a quality sheath with a fixed blade? Paul LeBatard does with his Field and Stream knife in D2 tool steel and amber stag scales. Overall length: 8.75 inches. (Jocelyn Frasier image)
Does the maker supply a quality sheath with a fixed blade? Paul LeBatard does with his Field and Stream knife in D2 tool steel and amber stag scales. Overall length: 8.75 inches. (Jocelyn Frasier image)

“I think it’s always good to ask a maker you’re not familiar with but interested in how they got into knifemaking,” Schluter recommended. “How long have they been making knives? Why do they enjoy it? Most custom knives are not inexpensive, and I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want to know about the maker. As many have said, ‘You buy the maker, not the knife!’”

Knowledge is power and Hirsch suggests that prospective customers invest in some research of their own before contacting a maker who interests them.

“There’s typically a wealth of information available online,” he related. “Ask other collectors their opinions. Find out the knifemaker’s preferred method of communication and what hours they are available to communicate with you. Remember that when you are talking with them during working hours you are taking them away from making knives. Be respectful of their time.”

Communication is a two-way street, so what is appropriate in terms of responsiveness from the maker?

“When a maker is at a show, yes, I think it’s important that he engage with people as they walk by—without being pushy,” collector Jim Berkenfield observed. Toby Hill (left) talks knives with a customer at the 2024 BLADE Show Texas.
“When a maker is at a show, yes, I think it’s important that he engage with people as they walk by—without being pushy,” collector Jim Berkenfield observed. Toby Hill (left) talks knives with a customer at the 2024 BLADE Show Texas.

“Like any business, there is a customer service aspect,” Schluter acknowledged. “Someone who is unresponsive to a sales inquiry might also be unresponsive if there’s a problem with a knife in the future. Of course, there’s the whole ‘knifemaker time’ thing so don’t expect Nordstrom-like customer service, either. For a knifemaker, I generally like to hear back from them within a few days to a week.”

Other Tells Of Good Knifemakers

Other tells of a maker’s work and business conduct might include the existence of a dedicated website; the inclusion of a sheath in the purchase of a fixed blade; the potential cross-over of a knife from everyday carry and field use to the collector’s case, and vice versa; and the relative cost of the piece in comparison to the popularity of the man or woman who made it may all weigh proportionally on the eventual appeal of a maker to the buyer. Some conditions, after all, will always remain subjective.

In the end, a prospective customer and his or her maker of choice should be able to accommodate one another, striking a balance in mutual respect and appreciation for their common interest. Communication is an important part of any relationship or business transaction. When a healthy give and take is present, both parties will tend to be more satisfied with the outcome of a discussion and, hopefully, a satisfied buyer and seller.

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Who Made Your Knife?

The company name stamped on the blade isn’t always the manufacturer’s name.

Who doesn’t like solving a good mystery? Remember the mystery game Clue, with its colorful game board depicting an old mansion, a stack of character cards, various miniature weapons, a detective’s notebook, a set of dice, and clue cards? The object of the game is to determine who murdered the victim, where the crime took place, and which weapon was used. Each player assumes the role of one of six suspects and attempts to solve the whodunnit by strategically moving around the game board that represents rooms of the mansion and collecting clues about the circumstances of the murder from other players. Clue is cited in several Top 10 lists as the fifth highest-selling board game of all time, with over 200 million copies sold.

Mysteries regarding knife production abound because thousands of cutlery manufacturers exist in the United States. Collecting vintage or antique knives inevitably turns up many examples with mysterious or unknown tang stamps and origins, even for seasoned collectors. To many knife enthusiasts, determining which factories produced specific models is unimportant. However, for serious and curious collectors interested in researching some recent finds, tracking down the origins of unknown tang stamps is akin to solving a cutlery history mystery.

In most cases, the finders of these unknown specimens can reference highly regarded publications with lists of knife manufacturers, descriptions of tang stamps, production dates, countries of origin, and sometimes even desirability ratings or collectible rankings.

The same company made two original sheaths of widely different patterns. A page from Dean Case's Kinfolks Knives book shows the exact carved leather sheath and proves that the company made it.
The same company made two original sheaths of widely different patterns. A page from Dean Case’s Kinfolks Knives book shows the exact carved leather sheath and proves that the company made it.

Such books include those authored by John Goins and Bernard Levine. I use the references much like a history book since they are devoted explicitly to production knife history, perusing years, dates, details and fascinatingly unique information. Of course, there is also the Internet and its various search engines, which, if used correctly, can uncover published data on most little-known knife tang stamps. Keep in mind, however, that much of the Internet, especially forums, consists of a series of posts made by individuals, some experts, but many not. Most posts are simply an individual’s opinion and are not based on factual material such as military contracts or production knife company catalogs and ephemera.

Like detective work, looking for clues is the key to solving most knife mysteries. Many knives can reveal clues to their history if one knows where to research and what to look for. Unfortunately, just when you think you’ve traced a particular knife back to its manufacturing origins, you inevitably discover that thousands of models were not even manufactured by the company indicated on the tang stamp, but were, in fact, made on contract by different factories. Those factories derived a significant portion of their business taking orders. In other words, the stamping on the blade, which generally indicates a manufacturer and city of origin, may not be the factory or the city where the knife was made.

Production knife companies can be divided into two categories. The first manufactures blades bearing their own stampings and makes few, if any, knives for other businesses. Remington Cutlery appears to be one of those manufacturers that produces only knives bearing the company’s full name. Remington did have a couple of production lines, one with knives stamped in a straight-line “Remington,” but it only produced its own blades and did not work with outside contracts.

A gorgeous, red-handled hunting knife is stamped “Ideal” on the knife and sheath—the snaps on the top of the sheath hint at its origin.
A gorgeous, red-handled hunting knife is stamped “Ideal” on the knife and sheath—the snaps on the top of the sheath hint at its origin.

The second are those that not only produced knives bearing the official company name but also accepted contracts to make models for any of several major retail outlets needing factory-fixed blades and folders. For many manufacturers in the second category, making knives for retailers or putting other companies’ brand names on tang stamps equated to a significant source of revenue.

Knives On Contract

Some production knife companies made blades on contract to spread their knives throughout the United States. This was particularly important for manufacturers like the Western States Cutlery of Boulder, Colorado, which had difficulty selling its knives east of the Great Plains. Other companies include industry giants like Camillus, Colonial, Western Cutlery and Kinfolks. Some outlets contracting with Western Cutlery to make knives for them included Sears, Montgomery Wards, Coast Hardware, Western Auto, Spiegel and Shapleigh Hardware.

Camillus is perhaps the best example of a production knife company known for copyrighting dozens of tang stamps, yet the manufacturer made all the blades. The list of those stampings takes up pages but includes Kingston, Clover, Sta-Sharp, Dunlap, Kwik-Kut, Streamline, OVB (Our Very Best), High Carbon Steel, Keen Kutter, Kent, Sword Brand, Tip Top and Buck. While most stampings are contract-made knives (like Keen Kutter and Buck), others are merely Camillus Cutlery’s sub-brands.

A closeup of a Kinfolks yellow-handle knife-axe combination set shows the snap-button sheath attachment style.

With the data well documented regarding the practice of knife manufacturers producing contract brands, a look at specific examples is in order. The origins of many of the tang stamps started as mysteries that were eventually solved through clues inherent to the knives.

Western Cutlery knives hold some specific clues, which, once recognized, can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were made by the company even when stamped with another name. The first and most obvious clue lies in the aluminum pommels that Western used on its various hunting knives. Unlike the rounded, mushroom-shaped or ovoid pommels of other knife manufacturers, Western employed a bird’s-beak pommel.

The aluminum pommel extends smoothly from the last series of colorful handle spacers to form a bird’s beak and head. The top of the pommel is not flat, as most others, but slanted like a bird’s head, sloping down at an angle toward its back. Recognizing this obvious clue, it becomes easy to put a hunting knife stamped “Western” next to those stamped “Craftsman,” “Western Field,” and “Hawthorne” and recognize that Western Cutlery made them all, and those featuring alternative tang stamps were built under contract for Sears and Montgomery Ward.

A red-handle Ideal hunting knife, which snaps onto the Kinfolks hatchet set sheath. Notice the similarities of the leather sheath embossing style—a perfect match. Kinfolks made the “Ideal” knife.
A red-handle Ideal hunting knife, which snaps onto the Kinfolks hatchet set sheath. Notice the similarities of the leather sheath embossing style—a perfect match. Kinfolks made the “Ideal” knife.

A second clue to whether Western Cutlery manufactured specific knives is those stamped with a unique patent number, 1,967,479. The number refers to a patent by Harlow Platts described as a “novel and simple method of forming a handle for a tool which is durable, strong and which cannot be displaced or loosened.” The patent refers to Western’s double-tang handle configuration, which is two flattened steel rods that run from the blade to the pommel and between which fiber and leather spacers are stacked to form a handle that does not move.

Since only Western knives incorporated the patented handle design, it becomes a simple matter to look at a typical hunting knife from that era to see whether the steel tangs are visible on both sides of the handle, with the spacers lying between the two—Western most certainly made knives with this design feature.

Round Leather Spacers

Most other hunting knife handles from the time were made with a single round rod extending from the base of the blade to the pommel. Round leather handle spacers with holes in the middle are stacked tightly, with the rod running through them, for the length of the handle between the blade and pommel. Generally, the rod is threaded so that a round, usually brass nut can be tightened to sandwich and secure the handle spacers between the blade and pommel, making a durable handle. On these knives, the top ends of the aluminum pommels have round indentations where threaded nuts are seated. Marble’s knives are examples of this handle construction.

A closeup of the stag-handle hunter shows the WARD tang stamp and a patent number below it, giving an obvious hint as to the knife’s maker.
A closeup of the stag-handle hunter shows the WARD tang stamp and a patent number below it, giving an obvious hint as to the knife’s maker.

Over several months, I accumulated four hunting knives with a wide-blade style known as a “woodcraft” pattern popularized by the Marble Arms Company. The knives had four different tang stamps, one reading JEAN CASE CUT. CO., a second, BELNAP, LOUISVILLE, the third, HOLLINGER, and the fourth was stamped KINFOLKS, INC. I was already familiar with the Kinfolks stamp, as I have always favored this wide-blade style. I also knew Kinfolks had a knife factory built in the 1930s but did not realize that the manufacturer was potentially involved in contracts with other companies to produce their knives.

An examination of the four hunting knives laid side by side clearly showed that they were almost identical in blade length, had the same highly polished chrome-vanadium blades, and identical aluminum guards and pommels with brass centering nuts.

If I needed yet another piece of evidence to prove that Kinfolks made the four knives, the spacer pattern proved a strong clue. The knives had identical stacked leather handles ending near the guards with alternating black and white spacers—five black spacers separated by three white spacers. Finally, looking at the sheaths was the icing on the cake. Although all four hunting knives had sheaths of the same length and width, with identical rivet spacing, one was patterned differently from previously known Kinfolks examples. Wondering if this last leather sheath with a unique stamping was original to the knife and produced by Kinfolks, I turned to a book by Dean Elliot Case titled Kinfolks Knives, a History of Cutlery and Cousins.

Western was a significant producer of contract knives for Sears, Montgomery Ward, Western Auto and others. Here are four examples branded “The Coast Cutlery,” “Western Auto,” “Hunt Master” (Spiegel), and “Western Boulder.” Some enthusiasts specialize in collecting Western’s contract-branded knives.
Western was a significant producer of contract knives for Sears, Montgomery Ward, Western Auto and others. Here are four examples branded “The Coast Cutlery,” “Western Auto,” “Hunt Master” (Spiegel), and “Western Boulder.” Some enthusiasts specialize in collecting Western’s contract-branded knives.

Looking at the illustrations of various Kinfolks knives in the book, I came across a picture of a sheath identical to that which housed the Jean Case woodcraft knife. The mystery was solved, and all four hunting knives were made by Kinfolks, even though they had different stampings.

A unique hunting knife appeared recently in an Internet auction. Being attracted to colored hunting knife handles from days gone by, I bid on it. My winning bid soon arrived, and opening the package revealed a hunting knife and a leather sheath with the word “Ideal” embossed in script lettering. The blade tang was also etched “Ideal.” The mystery was in what production knife company made it. I noticed that, at the top of the leather sheath, were two snaps, one on each side of the pommel. Those snaps led me to rustle through my collection of hunting knives, explicitly looking for knife/axe combination sets. I found just the set, made by Kinfolks, with the same two snaps on the knife sheath and an identical set on the hatchet sheath. Taking the newly purchased Ideal hunting knife, I aligned the snaps on that sheath to the Kinfolks knife/axe combination set. “Snap, snap,” a perfect match.

Examining the leather embossing on the Ideal hunting knife sheath proved to be a perfect match to the Kinfolks sheath for the knife/axe combination set. My investigation solved which company made the Ideal hunting knife with red handle slabs. It was a part of a Kinfolks hunting knife set with an Ideal stamping. I am sure a matching hatchet with an Ideal stamp and a red handle is somewhere.

Different Handle Material

One of Western’s most interesting knife styles was a wide-bladed pattern with a different handle material from what it usually used. Western Cutlery was generally known for its stacked-leather knife handles. The H-shaped leather washers are stacked together with various patterns of fiber spacers along the company’s patented double-tang handle, all held in place by an aluminum pommel that is double-pinned to two steel tang sections.

Two hunting knives, one with a stag handle and the other featuring a sectioned “cracked ice” celluloid handle, have similar “bird’s beak” pommels, blade shapes and tang stampings.
Two hunting knives, one with a stag handle and the other featuring a sectioned “cracked ice” celluloid handle, have similar “bird’s beak” pommels, blade shapes and tang stampings.

The knives I acquired are stamped “West-Cut,” indicating Western’s less expensive line of knives, most of which incorporate stacked-leather handles. Each of these knives, however, enlists a thin aluminum guard and a shiny, molded handle, which narrows at the butt to form a quasi-shaped pommel. The handles are plastic, deep brown with specks and swirls of lighter browns.

Finding several other examples, which I assumed to be West-Cut’s as well, I was struck by the stamping on the blades, which included Shapleigh’s, Colonial, Providence, Viking, New York, and yet another with an arched line reading “The Coast Cutlery, Portland, Oregon.” The Viking example had an aluminum handle. The Colonial was bright orange, and the Coast Cutlery (not pictured) model featured a relatively thick aluminum guard with a red spacer between two aluminum pieces.

Once again, the mystery lies in which productive factory made the hunting knives. Colonial Cutlery of Providence, RI, was known for making thousands of knife styles with colored handle materials. Living in Colorado, I have located a half-dozen examples of these molded, brown-handled knives.

A closeup comparison of the two hunting knives shows the same patent number on both blade tangs. This patent number was awarded to Western Cutlery for “a simple method of forming a handle for the tool”—the double steel tang upon which H-shaped fiber spacers and washers could be stacked to form the handle. Western made the WARD hunting knife; thus, another mystery was solved.
A closeup comparison of the two hunting knives shows the same patent number on both blade tangs. This patent number was awarded to Western Cutlery for “a simple method of forming a handle for the tool”—the double steel tang upon which H-shaped fiber spacers and washers could be stacked to form the handle. Western made the WARD hunting knife; thus, another mystery was solved.

Also, I know that Coast Cutlery of Portland, OR, had extensive contracts with Western for producing small red and white bird-and-trout knives, reinforcing Western’s status as the maker of the molded-handle knives. The “Shapleigh’s St. Louis” example is a monkey wrench in the works, as is the “Viking, New York.” Both are located quite far from Boulder, and Western Cutlery generally had few contracts to make knives east of the Mississippi River. Colonial Cutlery in Providence is even farther away.

Since Western has been out of business since 1992, and all company records are available to collectors and researchers, the idea that Western produced all these knives is up in the air. A letter to current Providence Cutlery owners was also a dead end. Who made these colored, molded-handle knives? That’s a mystery yet to be solved.

Solving cutlery’s history mysteries involves following the clues, comparing examples, looking at knife construction, examining the sheaths, reading company histories, talking to other collectors, and formulating educated guesses.

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Best Steel For Knives: How To Choose

Intended cutting use and blade style help determine the ideal alloy for you and your knives.

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This article is an excerpt from the KNIVES 2025 annual, available at GunDigestStore.com.

Three critical aspects of creating or choosing a quality blade are steel selection, heat treatment and geometry. This feature focuses on the first of these, and the first any aspiring knifemaker or enthusiast will be tasked with—choosing the right blade steel for you and your knives.

To the casual observer, the steel selection process wouldn’t seem like such a big deal, but as in-depth as this article is, it barely scratches the surface of the topic.

Not all steels are created equal. Each varies as much as knife style and is designed for a specific application. So, matching the correct steel to the specific blade, intended use, and maker or user can be critical in creating a quality tool. Choosing the best alloy for your purpose can mean the difference between achieving the highest performance by effortlessly allowing the steel to do what it does best and struggling to pound a square peg into a round hole by forcing it to do something it was never designed to accomplish.

From my observations after a lifetime of providing metallurgical consulting services for various industrial clients and countless knifemakers, the latter rarely select steel with the same analytical vigor as the former. Rather than independent research to match steel chemistry to a process and product, knifemakers often choose whatever alloy everybody else is using.

American Bladesmith Society Journeyman Smith John Schultz chose well with 1075 steel for its natural toughness on his recurved chopper.
American Bladesmith Society Journeyman Smith John Schultz chose well with 1075 steel for its natural toughness on his recurved chopper.

Be it a ubiquitous old favorite or the newest rage in the “steel of the month club,” no single alloy is the best fit for every knife, use or maker. On the other hand, the one area where knifemakers often exceed my industrial clients is letting frugality make the choice. The number of knifemakers who have told me they use a specific type of steel because of their access to a cheap or free supply is unfortunate.

The trouble with these approaches is needlessly steepening the learning curve for many a new maker or knife user. I can’t count the number of times I have heard a frustrated knifemaker state that an alloy they have tried is a bad steel. But there is no such thing as bad steel. Industry wouldn’t bother wasting time, effort or money on steel that wasn’t optimum for its intended purpose. There are poor application choices and bad heat treatments. Any fault lies with the knifemakers or bladesmiths and not the steel.

A36 is an excellent steel choice for use in buildings and bridges, but it is a bad reflection on knifemakers if they insist on making a blade with it. The steel properties of A36 are not conducive to knife blades. Alloys like 1095 or O-1 can make good hunting knife blades, but if the steels are heat treated like 5160, they won’t measure up in edge performance. I can’t tell you how often I’ve bitten my tongue when shown a blade fashioned from steel with barely enough carbon for adequate strength or an abrasion-resistant edge.

If knifemakers have to deviate from standard heat treatment practices with unorthodox extra steps, it is most likely the result of a steel choice that does not match their application or methods. You can under-soak or over-temper a 1% carbon steel sword or use an alloy better suited for such a blade. You can add several steps to heat-treating richly alloyed steel in your forge or choose a steel that readily responds to that heat source.

Intended Knife Use

Rather than using hard and soft layers for damascus, the author, Kevin Cashen, has always combined toughness with abrasion resistance, as in this O1/L6 skinner.
Rather than using hard and soft layers for damascus, the author, Kevin Cashen, has always combined toughness with abrasion resistance, as in this O1/L6 skinner.

The problem is that we often proceed from the wrong direction. Whatever the reason, many knifemakers have already settled on their steel before determining what knife they will fashion, but how can you make the right choice in a material before you even know its intended use?

A better model for success is letting the primary tasks a knife is meant to perform determine needs and goals. Develop a plan to achieve those goals by designing a hand tool that will perform a specific task or even multiple tasks, keeping in mind that the intended uses of a single knife can be much more varied than people think. With the desired tasks for the edged tool in mind, choose the material based on the desired properties inherent to each steel’s specific chemistry. Equally important is recognizing the limits of a maker’s abilities to work with a given chemistry.

To explain how to choose the correct steel for you and your knives, the myriad of blade designs is distilled down to two primary categories. The first group—fine-cutting knives—is designed to perform keen slicing or aggressive slashing. They are most often used in a draw-type cut that is optimized like a saw at the microscopic level. Think of scalpels, skinning and hunting knives, and many kitchen knives. Their edges are thin, flat or hollow ground for cutting various soft, fibrous materials.

This group has a subcategory of blades, including some kitchen knives and razors, that will be identical in many design features and desired properties, but they are used more in a push cut. Regardless, impact toughness is not nearly as crucial as abrasion resistance for knives like this.

The effects of carbon content in a simple steel can be seen on the Iron-Carbon phase diagram.
The effects of carbon content in a simple steel can be seen on the Iron-Carbon phase diagram.

In contrast, the second group—choppers—is used in straight-on, push-type motions, cleaving, or cutting that often involves impact. These knives cut more like a chisel than a blade drawn into a cut like a saw. Camp knives, some bowies, and many swords fall into this category. They benefit from polished, beefier, convex edge grinds that don’t require abrasion resistance as much as impact toughness.

By definition, a knife is a cutting tool. If we should ever find ourselves detracting from a blade’s ability to cut in any part of our plan or execution thereof, we may need to consider whether making a knife or another tool is the better option.

Thus, all the properties discussed herein are relevant to cutting. A fundamental condition for a blade to slice through material is that it must be stronger than the cutting medium. There is tremendous load pressure at the microscopic level, where the cut is initiated. So, almost by definition, strength must be a top priority in any knife edge.

For this article, strength is the ability to resist deformation under load. Opposing this prized quality of strength is ductility, or the ability to easily deform without edge or blade failure. Knifemakers heat treat steel to replace ductility with strength. For millennia, it was the job of the blade maker to find the most acceptable compromise between strength and ductility for their blades to cut while avoiding brittle failure.

Steel Strength

The graph shows the total hardness from proper solution in steels soaked for 1 minute and 10 minutes, respectively, illustrating the effects alloying can have on heating requirements.
The graph shows the total hardness from proper solution in steels soaked for 1 minute and 10 minutes, respectively, illustrating the effects alloying can have on heating requirements.

There are many types of strength in steel. Examples are compressive strength and tensile strength. These and shear strength are not as apparent in general knife use, so knifemakers more easily conceptualize them as hardness.

The other quality prized in a blade is toughness, which should be viewed as the steel’s ability to withstand shock from sudden loads rather than bending in a ductile manner under gradual load. These are two entirely different behaviors, with one being more relevant to a blade used in chopping. Rather than the Faustian bargain of trading strength for ductility, the Holy Grail of blade making is maintaining high strength with impact toughness. In chopping-type blades, impact toughness is almost as valuable as strength.

The next property to consider in a knife blade is abrasion resistance. Microscopically, the knife edge is subjected to tremendous wear, even when cutting seemingly soft materials. It is this wear that results in the tool dulling when used. Abrasion resistance is the steel’s ability to withstand such friction effects. While this property does increase with overall hardness, steel’s unique makeup gives it abrasion resistance above and beyond hardness and even independently from it. Within the steel, there might also be carbide particles with a hardness that far exceeds the overall Rockwell measurement numbers of the blade. Fine cutting and slicing blades benefit more from abrasion resistance than impact toughness.

Although the possible steel choices for modern knifemakers are endless, for simplicity’s sake, this discussion is limited to non-stainless alloys commonly used by forgers and grinders alike. Although many knifemakers have become dependent on AISI (American Iron and Steel Institute) or SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) steel names, such titles as 1084, W-2 or 80CrV2 lack specificity and meaning compared to studying the individual steel’s chemistry in determining its potential properties.

The more alloying helps us in gentler quenches, the more attention must be paid to proper heating, making some steels a better match for a forge and others a digital oven.
The more alloying helps us in gentler quenches, the more attention must be paid to proper heating, making some steels a better match for a forge and others a digital oven.

I strongly encourage knifemakers to study the chemistry of any potential steel choices to decide which one to use and how to work it. A supplier that provides the chemistry for your steel understands this and is well worth doing business with rather than a source that omits the alloy’s makeup.

Carbon content is the first consideration within a steel’s chemistry and perhaps the most important. Carbon is the main element responsible for strength in steel. The more carbon a steel has, the greater strength can be achieved in hardening. However, this is only true to a certain point; maximum hardness in carbon steel is achieved at around .80% carbon, and beyond this, not much more is gained in that area. Putting more carbon than .80% into the solution during the hardening process can harm a bladesmith’s goals. However, carbon beyond this optimum level will add abrasion resistance if allowed to stay in carbide form.

This sweet spot in carbon levels around .80% is known as the eutectoid. It is the most efficient use of carbon in steel, with no leftover iron (ferrite) or any leftover carbide (cementite). Steels with less than .80% carbon content are inherently tougher and less brittle, while steels with more can have much greater abrasion resistance with a tendency to be less tough. This is important to consider when choosing steel for your intended blade purpose. Does a machete need abrasion resistance? Does a skinning knife need to be tough? Choosing 1075 for one or 1095 for the other could make all the difference in having a steel that will work for you or against you in creating that blade.

In centuries past, bladesmiths had no choice but to compromise between strength and ductility when working with simple iron-carbon material. But then, starting in the early 19th century, alloying changed everything. Finally, with the intentional addition of other elements to steel, bladesmiths could have their cake and eat it, too.

Steel Alloys

Combining it in one chart helps select the correct steel based on knife use and a knifemaker’s heat-treating equipment.
Combining it in one chart helps select the correct steel based on knife use and a knifemaker’s heat-treating equipment.

A sword in the 13th century that had to be kept in the low hardness ranges could now be just as tough at much higher hardness levels. Fine slicing cutters could have an abrasion-resistant carbide boost far exceeding simple cementite abilities. But with these gains in performance came greater demands for more precise controls in heat treating, atmosphere, and more refined blade quenches. Today, even the most basic carbon steels have enough alloys to radically differentiate them from the old steel. Anybody who thought they would water quench 1084, just like traditional tamahagane steel, can attest to this fact.

For this reason, another critical factor must be considered in proper steel selection beyond the type of knife being made. It is why the premise of this article is choosing the right steel for you and your knife. Our modern steel alchemists may have created the perfect high-tech steel for a knifemaker’s application. But if they’re learning the ropes, or all they own is a humble forge, it could still be a terrible choice for their knife.

If your shop is equipped with a digitally controlled oven, all the many modern alloy options are available if you learn the rules each steel choice requires. The same chemistry that makes one steel harden in almost any oil or air makes it much more finicky when heated before being quenched. An alloy steel may have the potential to outperform a simple carbon steel, but not if you lack the equipment necessary to unlock that potential.

Figure 1 shows the as-quenched hardness results of a series of tests involving simple heating versus a standard 10-minute soak on commonly used steels. Here, the effect of increased alloying is plain to see when looking at each steel’s time and temperature requirements, which many open-flame heat sources or forges may struggle to meet. Unless armed with an excellent understanding of the metallurgy, a smith desiring to stick with more traditional tools would be better served by more traditional steels. Simple carbon steels such as “W” or 10XX series are like what forges were initially made for and will allow the traditional smith to produce a fine blade effortlessly.

Knowing what each of the additional alloying elements brings to the table is valuable in knowing what to seek in steel. If you’re looking for impact toughness, consider chemistries that include nickel or silicon. These additions affect the iron’s atomic lattice, which acts like a shock absorber. For a knife needing abrasion resistance, a boost from the more powerful carbide formers can give you longer wear than simple cementite, with two of the most common examples being vanadium (above .25% of overall elements) or tungsten. Chromium will also help in this area to a lesser extent.

If you wish to achieve a fully hardened blade with minimal effort, manganese over 1% or relatively modest additions of chromium are just the ticket for leaving behind your stressful days of the water quench. And, of course, for applications where simple carbon steels would rust too quickly, chromium over 11% will also help resist corrosion.
The chart in Figure 2 brings together all these considerations. On a final note, it must be conceded that a skilled bladesmith with a solid knowledge of heat treatment could push several of these alloys into adjacent categories. Still, here, we’ve focused on the path of least resistance.

By capitalizing on the characteristics of an alloy’s chemistry, a maker can spend less time getting it to behave in the desired manner and more time maximizing its performance.

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Cool Custom: Jordon Berthelot’s Integral Hunter

Jordon Berthelot marries two electric materials in one knife.

Jordon Berthelot achieves a hypnotic union of blade and handle materials in his integral hunter.

The blade is his HHH lightning damascus and the handle is cottonwood from Robswildwood.

“I used a wide variety of different bits and burrs with Foredom and Dremel tools to freehand carve the blade and handle,” he wrote.

Jordon Berthelot

“As my teacher Spencer Aplin always says, the most difficult part is deciding what to carve and how to give it the flow I want, which is so true,” Berthelot said. “I decided to incorporate the blade carving into the handle so it gave the whole piece a complete look, and also added some great purchase of the handle in multiple different grips.”

Berthelot Integral Hunter Specs
Blade length: 4.5”
Blade material: HHH lightning damascus forged from W1 tool steel/nickel rods w/4800 powder
Handle material: Cottonwood from Robswildwood
Overall length: 9”
Maker’s price for a similar knife: $3,500

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Buying Custom Knives: Four Lessons To Get A Deal

We give you the tips to avoid mistakes when buying a custom knives.

Of course, every rule or principle has its exceptions and counter-principles. You do get what you pay for, but only when you have an honest and informed assessment. Is that micarta real Westinghouse Micarta? Is the fit and finish and reputation of the maker in line with the price? Did the maker grind the knife themselves, or is this a production knife?

You’ll have to do some homework if you want to get “good deals.” One of the oldest tricks in the book is for the seller to exaggerate demand and conceal supply. “This is the last one, and they’ve been buying them fast all day!” may be true or may be a dishonest sales pitch.

The warning is “buyer beware” more often than “seller beware” after all. Many a “bad deal” comes not from mutual disagreement, but from one side taking advantage or being dishonest.

Economic generalities aside, let’s look specifically at the knife market.

Lesson 1: Don’t Buy The Hype

Some people want the latest and greatest thing. They get great enjoyment out of buying what is the ultimate “grail” knife of a given season, often hyped up on social media, on online forums, by word of mouth, in magazines and at events. For these buyers, the thrill is in the hunt and in the showing of the trophy.

If you want to be that kind of buyer, buy what you want and enjoy the heck out of it! Keep in mind that demand will be lower for last year’s hot thing, and so will the resale price. I won’t go so far as to say don’t buy the hot knife. Many of us spend money on experiences (what do you gain long term from a concert or a trip to the movies?) or on depreciating possessions like cars or boats. In some ways, if you enjoy it, it doesn’t matter if you lose some money on a knife or it’s not a good “investment.”

Many of us “regular” folks have to be a little more careful with our funds. If you chase what’s hot, you’ll end up buying at times of peak demand, which means you’ll pay a higher price. By the time you get tired of that knife or want to sell, everyone else just might be tired of it as well, as the knife world will have moved on to the next hot thing. If you’re one of the folks for whom a sour ending ruins the whole experience, don’t buy hot. If you have an eye toward appreciation of values and want to “make money” on your knife collecting hobby, don’t buy hot.

For some people, the thrill is in finding the next hot one, before it gets hot. Wouldn’t we all have loved to have purchased a bunch of Microsoft stock in 1993? If we were better at predicting the future, we’d make better knife picks for our collection, just like we’d make better choices in our stock portfolio. Still, if you “hit” one once in a while—buy the maker’s work right before he hits the big time and make lots of money—it can be quite a thrill and keep you buying knives on a regular basis.

Another point of caution when it comes to hype has to do with the “flash in the pan” types who grow smoking hot quickly, beyond their market position or ability to produce. It has happened in the knife world before and will happen again. Someone may be better at marketing than knifemaking, or better at Instagram videos than filling knife orders. If the hype of a particular maker turns you off or looks suspicious, trust your gut and hold off on purchasing. Sometimes makers flame out as spectacularly as they rose to fame.

Lesson 2: Don’t Overspend At The Beginning

“Walk before you run” is good advice. Knife collecting is about finding joy in knives, and at the beginning, small mistakes hurt less. If you start with $500 and buy five quality production knives at $100 each, you may enjoy them a long time. If you start with the same $500 and buy a custom at a show from an overhyped maker who quickly fades away, you may sour to collecting altogether. When you gamble more, the losses cost more.

The opposite is somewhat true as well, however. If you spend your $500 on 50 $10 gas station knives, you’ll have a great big pile of crappy knives when you’re done. The trick is finding a good balance between price and quality. Finding that balance takes time to learn.

As you learn more about the market segment you’re interested in, don’t be afraid to invest more as you grow. You may reach a point where you don’t want the Chinese ones, but rather the American ones. Or maybe you don’t want production, you want midtech. Or maybe you won’t want the midtech one with the maker’s name on it, you may want the custom one made by the maker himself.

Hopefully, your budget will grow to accommodate your growing expertise and preferences.

Lesson 3: It’s Not Just The Knife You’re Buying

When you invest in Amazon stock, you are making a rich man richer. You’re buying a piece of paper or an electronic data point that says you “own” a tiny piece of the company, and you expect a mathematically increasing return for your investment.

When you buy a knife, odds are good your money won’t go to that knifemaker’s yacht payment or summer home fund. When you buy a knife from an individual knifemaker, you’re more likely sending his kids to daycare or piano lessons, paying for his electricity and buying his wife new shoes. If you buy at a knife show, you probably bought the maker’s dinner. When you invest in a knife, you support a specific person, not “the man behind the curtain.”

Even if you find joy by investing in a person by buying their product, you still owe it to yourself to invest wisely. Of course, you should buy a knife you like, that you find useful or that may make you a decent return on your money. At the same time, you should be looking for people to help, individual makers whose lives you will improve by your relationship and the purchases you make over time. You may be making friends, not just money, which can add another degree of magnitude to your enjoyment of knife collecting.

Lesson 4: Buy What You Know

The more you know, the fewer expensive mistakes you’re likely to make and the more deals you’re likely to find. The less you know, the more likely it is that you’ll get a bad deal, purchase a knife you’ll be dissatisfied with or a knife you later regret. The more you know, the better. This seems to be a universal principle of life and economics, and it applies to knives as well.

First off, buy knives from brands or people you know have a good market position. Many times, a well-known brand is successful for good reasons. A classic brand like Case or Spyderco may be a great place to start, or a well-known Knifemakers’ Guild member or somebody from the “Slipjoint Cartel.” When you have the chance to know the maker or seller personally, that knowledge makes your purchases more likely to bring you joy or a good return on your investment.

Second, buy knives from reputable dealers or purveyors. While you may get a “great deal” from a pawn shop or somebody’s cousin who is a knife collector, there is some measure of protection in buying from well-known retailers such as Blade HQ, AG Russell, Arizona Custom Knives and others. Until you become familiar enough with the market to know exactly what you’re looking at, it’s wise to stick with the major dealers.

As another example, consider buying from the folks who advertise in the knife magazines, such as BLADE. If their business is legitimate enough to afford the expense of advertising in print, they’re more likely to be honest and stick around.

Third, buy the knives you’re familiar with. You may get joy out of buying a knife the first time you’ve ever seen or heard of it. On the other hand, you’re even likelier to enjoy a knife that you know in your heart is a great one, because you’ve studied it, chased it, pursued it, and finally purchased after careful consideration. Sometimes the journey is as fun as the destination, and the pursuit of the grail is worth as much as the grail itself.

You may get in a rut and feel like you’re buying the same knife over and over. That’s no good either. Balance your knowledge with both width and depth. You may dive deep into one model, one maker or one brand, or you may spread your collection broadly by buying one knife from as many different people and places as possible. Either way, you’ll get familiar with the knives that you like, and you’ll end up going as deep or as broad in your collection as you like.

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