Knife Collecting

Knife collecting is an extremely rewarding experience for knife enthusiasts. There truly is a knife for everyone. Many increase or hold their value throughout the years, making collecting knives something to pass on to the next generation of knife collectors.

What is a Bird’s-Beak Handle?

The short answer: A handle design favored by custom knifemakers that resembles a bird’s head with a short beak at the butt of the handle.

Given the practicality and curves of the bird’s-beak handle, it is small wonder that it is quite the popular grip among today’s knifemakers. In fact, the design resembling a bird’s head with a short beak at the butt of the handle has appeared in many cultures over many centuries.

Birds Beak knifemaking
Tad Lynch indicated that crafting a good bird’s-beak design requires practice and the courage to push things. His Irish Traveler Fighter features a handle of koa, a 9-inch blade of W2 tool steel with hamon and is 14 inches overall. His list price for a similar knife starts at $1,100. (SharpByCoop knife image)

“You see it in different variations on Persian daggers and swords,” said North Carolina knifemaker Ken Hall. “Also, some kukris have the ‘hook’ in the handle. In American knives you see it in some of the Buck knife designs.”

When the ABS journeyman smith with 11 years of experience is not forging in the Smoky Mountains, he raises honeybees, hikes and teaches others the craft. He made a bowie in January in preparation for an ABS master smith test that had to be pushed back because of a bicycle accident.

What is a birds beak handle on a knife
While many makers make a bird’s-beak handle with a dense hardwood, Paul DiStefano took a risk on a material that has a reputation of being temperamental: ancient walrus ivory. Blade length and material: 12 inches and 500 layers of 1095 carbon and 15N20 nickel alloy steels. His list price for a similar knife: $1,800.
(SharpByCoop knife image)

He picked the bird’s-beak handle design because it pairs well with large knives, especially those with recurve or clip-point blades. A big block of wood large enough to develop the butt’s shape is one of the best material sizes for the design, Hall explained.

“The bird’s beak provides a more controlled grip for the hand,” he noted. “The contour snugs around the little finger, keeping the knife from slipping forward while in use.”

The result, combined with a balanced knife, is a tool that feels like an extension of the hand.

PHOTOS: 15 Greatest Bob Loveless Knives of All-Time

Robert “Bob” Loveless is regarded as one of the most influential custom knifemakers of the modern era. Here are the 15 knives that show why.

1) R.W. Loveless and Abercrombie & Fitch: A Match Made In Heaven

Best Robert Loveless knives
This is one of Loveless’ first knives made for Abercrombie & Fitch during the early 1950s. The photo is courtesy of John Denton.

2) Loveless-Johnson Collab

Bob Loveless Knife Photos
Steve Johnson, who worked as a junior partner with Loveless, says Bob made a huge difference in his life. Pictured is one of the few knives marked “Loveless Johnson” reportedly still in existence. The image is courtesy of John Denton and the John Denton collection.

3) The Most Beautiful Knife Bob Ever Made?

Best Robert Loveless knife photos
If Bob Loveless reportedly said that this integral semi-skinner, with its dark-green canvas-Micarta handle, is “the most beautiful knife I ever made,” then who can argue? The knife was crafted about 1987 and features a drop-point blade. It is from the John Denton collection, and the photo is by Hiro Soga.

4) The Loveless Dagger

Bob Loveless Dagger Photos
The dagger looks so good, you want to pick it up, and feels so good you don’t want to put it down. The dagger in a full, tapered tang, Micarta handle and double guard looks and feels good. It is from the John Denton Collection.

5) Loveless-Merritt Collab

Jim Merritt Bob Loveless knives
The combined skills of Jim Merritt and Bob Loveless are simply without peer. This pair is a prime example of the combined efforts of Bob Loveless and Jim Merritt. The knife photo is by Durwood Hollis.

6) The Crooked Skinner

Bob Loveless Crooked Skinning Knife
The Bob Loveless Lawndale-made crooked skinner at right in the Hiro Soga photo features a 4.5-inch skinner blade, a nickel-silver guard and ebony handle. The camp knife is wrought from 1/4-inch stainless steel stock with a 6.5-inch clip-point blade, full tang and ebony handle. The knives are in the John Denton collection.

7) Big Bear Classic

Bob Loveless Big Bear Knives Pictures
This particular Loveless Big Bear Classic fighter boasts an amber-stag handle, which makes it one of the few made, and no Loveless bolts. Its approximate value? $35,000. That’s a lot of bear bones. Image and information via Dave Ellis.

8) New York Special

RW Loveless Knife Pictures
This is perhaps the rarest and hardest-to-find of Loveless pieces—the original New York Special with a snap in the sheath. According to Dave Ellis of Exquisite Knives, originally told, there were seven. This is the long-lost 8th! Image via Ellis.

9) The Pearl Gent

Bob Loveless Pearl Handle
Loveless preferred Micarta handles. This “gent’s” model is one of the very few knives made with pearl. Image via Dave Ellis.

10) The Iconic Drop-Point Hunter

Bob Loveless Hunting Knife
A prime example of a drop-point hunter, made in 1973 when Steve Johnson worked with Bob Loveless, it features hidden-tang construction, a single guard and a maroon-Micarta handle. How sweet it is! From the John Denton collection, this piece was photographed by Hiro Soga.

11) Loveless-Parke: Part Drop Point/Part Skinner

Loveless Parke Drop-Point Skinner Knife
Only 36 knives bearing the Loveless-Parke logo were ever produced (Parke was an investor in Loveless’s knifemaking business for a short period of time.) This knife, made in 1967, is an example of that effort. The image is courtesy of John Denton and the John Denton collection.

12) The Delaware Knife

Bob Loveless Rare Knives
This is an early (1950s) hunter made by R.W. “Bob” Loveless when he lived in Claymont, Delaware. Interestingly, there are thumb notches on the back of the blade, just ahead of the guard. This is an extremely uncommon feature on a Loveless knife. Photo via Hiro Soga.

13) The Delaware Maid

Delaware Maid Knife
An ultra-rare (only three of seven survive) Loveless “Delaware Maid” hunter with the VL&A (Von Lengerke and Antoine) logo, this knife has a trailing-point blade and a slender double-pinned hardwood handle. The photo is by Hiro Soga.

14) $13,000 Chute Knife

Bob Loveless Parachute Knife
Originally designed for a Spec Ops parachutist working in jungle climates, the “chute” knife was fashioned to cut the lines of a parachute should the operative become entangled in them, a tree or other obstruction. This amber-stag handle model is valued at $13,000. Photo via Dave Ellis.

15) The Iconic Schrade Semi-Skinner

Bob Loveless Semi-Skinning Knife
The knife Bob Loveless built for Schrade features a stainless steel blade and synthetic molded handle with no guard. The top piece is the Schrade knife, and the bottom is the Loveless semi-skinner prototype from which the Schrade knife was developed. Note the finger-grooved handle, a feature seldom seen on a Loveless knife. The photo is by Hiro Soga.

8 Knife Shows to Attend – November 2019

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Here are eight knife shows to attend throughout the United States in November 2019.

There’s nothing quite like meeting the makers behind the knives that collectors love. Even if you don’t buy a new favorite blade (though it’s hard to resist!), you’ll learn a lot about knifemaking, gain a new appreciation for the craft and handle knives worth tens of thousands of dollars without spending tens of thousands of dollars. 

What’s better than that?

NOV. 1-3 PORTLAND, OR

The 2nd Annual BLADE Show West, Oregon Convention Center. The latest in custom and factory knives, awards for same, demos, seminars and more. For more information visit bladeshowwest.com.

NOV. 1-3 PIGEON FORGE, TN

Voyles Knife Show, Smoky Mountain Convention Center, 865-908-3015 https://www.mypigeonforge.com/event/voyles-knife-show.

NOV. 2 SAN DIEGO, CA

The Art Knife Invitational, Sheraton Hotel San Diego Bayside Tower. Contact [email protected], ArtKnifeInvitational.com.

NOV. 2-3 MT. VERNON, IL

The 37th Annual Mt. Vernon Knife Show, Roland Lewis Community Building. Contact Nancy Hancock, Dept. BL4, 12193 Turner Dr., Mt. Vernon, IL 62864 618-242-4514 jcckc1982@ yahoo.com.

NOV. 3 MARLBORO, MA

Marlboro, Massachusetts Knife Show, Holiday Inn. Contact Lynn Cain 978-249-6070 [email protected].

NOV. 8-10 INDIANAPOLIS, IN

Indy 1500 Gun & Knife Show, Indiana State Fairgrounds. Contact World Class Gun Shows, PO Box 14194, Oklahoma City, OK 73113 405-340-1333 indy1500.com.

NOV. 9-10 TULSA, OK

Wanenmacher’s Tulsa Arms Show, Tulsa Fairgrounds. Contact [email protected], 918-492-0401 or tulsaarmsshow.com.

NOV. 22-23 JERSEY CITY, NJ

New York Custom Knife Show, The Westin Jersey City Newport, Newport Ballroom. For more information visit fiftyfiftyproductions.net.

When Astronomy Meets Knifemaking: The Custom “Black Hole” Knife

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Specs

  • KNIFE NAME: Vitreous Enamel Handle Hunter
  • KNIFE TYPE: Fixed blade
  • BLADE LENGTH: 6″
  • BLADE MATERIAL: Mosaic damascus of W2 tool and 15N20 nickel-alloy steels in a checkerboard pattern accordion cut, flattened and forged to shape
  • BLADE PATTERN: Clip point
  • BLADE GRIND: Flat
  • HANDLE: Copper pipe covered inside and out w/vitreous glass enamel
  • FITTINGS: 303 stainless steel
  • MAKER’S LIST PRICE FOR A SIMILAR KNIFE: $4,200

The Story

ABS master smith Dan L. Petersen is a professor at Washburn University. When astronomers found the first real black hole last spring and shared photos of it, it intrigued him so much so that he made a knife inspired by the wonder of it all. In fact, one of Petersen’s knives won the Custom Knife Collectors Association‘s (CKCA) annual Fisk Cutlery Challenge, earning the prof a cool $20,000.

“One of the [black hole] photos looked similar to the circular white and red patterns in the handle,” Dan explained. “I tried to get a bluish-black-of-the-universe effect, then the white swirls showing matter spinning around the red center black holes.”

Black hole photo
The black hole image that inspired Petersen. (Event Horizon Telescope Collaboration image)

To taper the copper-pipe handle, Petersen spun it on a lathe using metal-spinning techniques. He added vitreous glass enamel to the outside and inside of the handle. He heated the handle to 1,500-degrees F and rotated it until it melted and fused to the metal. He repeated the glass procedure with a layer of dark blue glass and then black glass for the universe effect.

Oh, and as for the $20,000, it helped Dan buy a lathe for metal spinning.

* Want to see more incredible custom knives? BLADE Show is the place to go.

 

Tips for Liquidating a Knife Collection After the Collector Dies

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Selling a knife collection takes more thought than handing a box over to the first person who shows up with an offer.

Editor’s note: An expanded version of this article appears in the book, KNIVES 2020.

  1. Hopefully, the collector left behind documentation about what’s in the collection
  2. Get a sense for how much the knives are worth by researching what’s selling online
  3. Avoid relying on potential buyers to tell you how much the knives are worth (they may be dishonest)
  4. Find a reputable knife dealer or auctioneer for assistance
  5. Sell the collection through the dealer or auctioneer
  6. If the knives have historical value, consider donating them to a museum

Knife Collectors, Do This Now: Document Everything

Bereaved family members looking to liquidate a knife collection is a possibility for many reasons, not all of them bad, so it is important not to wait until the last minute to get knives in order. Document everything. Knowing how much is invested, where and when the knives came into possession, and the current value can help immensely.

Knife Collectors: It’s Time for a Difficult Talk

Some knife enthusiasts pass their collections on to their families and kids. If that is an appealing option, make sure you define this in your will. Talk to the family members first. It isn’t a fun conversation, but it is critical that it occurs. If you have grandkids or close relatives, a special knife gift can start the collecting cycle over again.

The First Step in Liquidation: Get Help

Often, relatives don’t share your interest in knives. Selling the collection as a group or putting it on consignment can work, but you are depending on the honesty of others. Get recommendations for reputable knife dealers or knife auctioneers first.

An honest seller will review the collection with you, account for each item and justify the asking prices. Documentation will help. While it is possible for knives to go down in price over time, it is usually easy to find their current values by comparing them to knives sold online and at auction.

You do need to accept that a reseller will want to make some money for his or her time, but once again, your documentation and knowledge are key.

Beware the “Helpful” Friend

Sometimes friends can help, though beware of the “friend” that swoops in and offers $500 to take the $10,000 collection off of your spouse’s hands “so you don’t have to worry about it.” It is sad that this occurs, but it happens a lot. 

Donating to Museums

If you have a significant knife with rare historical value, you might consider donating it to a museum. Frontier knives, military models and other antique or collectible pieces can find new homes and audiences. Discuss this with museum staff before any donation.

Occasionally, a museum will purchase a knife, but it would have to be very special, and there can be tax ramifications, so it is important to determine this first.

Are Custom Knife Dealers Still Relevant?

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Answer: Even in the age of Instagram knife photos, online knife forums, and tweet-first-think-later social media, there is still a need for experts like custom knife dealers who stand behind their experience.

Editor’s note: An expanded version of this article appears in the book, KNIVES 2020.

It Takes a Certain Kind of Person to be a Custom Knife Dealer

Custom knife dealers must develop a unique skill set. Unlike knifemakers who, for the most part, only need to be concerned with their knives, custom knife dealers must familiarize themselves with hundreds of makers and their knives.

Through sheer repetition, custom knife dealers come to know more handmade knives and their makers than any collector can ever hope to achieve.

If you were to stand behind my table at a show, after three days of listening to me answer questions about the 50 or more knives on display, you’d have the handmade pieces committed to memory. Years later, you could still answer questions about any of those knives. Now imagine doing it for 34 years.

Something Only Time Can Give You: Perspective

This is what gives the purveyor of handmade knives the advantage of understanding what the market is truly about. The better-known dealers will buy and sell more custom knives in a year than most collectors will own in their lifetimes.

This should not be a revelation to anyone. If it were your profession or obsession to buy and sell handmade knives daily, developing a sense of “who’s who” in the market would be inevitable.

Generally, the custom knife dealers who are known as experts in certain knife styles have gained this reputation due in no small measure to longevity. Most of the nationally recognized dealers have been around for more than 10 years.

They Can See What’s Coming Before It’s Popular Elsewhere

The interesting thing about this expertise is that, for many of the dealers, it follows the trends. As with makers, many of the custom knife dealers are extremely versatile. Because of their unique perspectives of the entire knife market, some can move from specialty to specialty while still maintaining their reputation or even further developing their position in several areas.

Custom Knife Dealers Spread Knowledge

A custom knife dealer’s expertise is often sought out for a myriad of reasons. Magazines, such as BLADE, will solicit their expertise when researching stories on individual makers, trends or market sectors. In some cases, purveyors are commissioned to contribute or write articles based on their areas of expertise.

Expertise is further sought for seminars at knife shows like BLADE Show and BLADE Show West. Because of the spectrum of handmade knives submitted for judging at various shows across the country, a dealer is often called on to judge the pieces in these competitions.

They Increase the Return on Your Investment, Because They are Also Invested

For the more serious custom knifemaker and collector, custom knife dealers’ unique insights into the market are invaluable. Custom knife dealers can provide guidance with regards to pricing, position and potential return on investment.

I have given these words of advice to thousands of custom knifemakers and buyers: “Do your homework!”

What is a Camp Knife?

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What are the characteristics of a camp knife?

  • Design suitable to clearing vegetation, preparing meals and handling general camp chores
  • Fixed blade
  • Blade length: 6 to 10 inches
  • Full tang
  • Guard
  • Jimping
  • Pommel

Camp knife: the name conjures images of unlimited locations and scenarios. Most would agree that a camp knife would be some type of fixed blade suitable for odd jobs while camping and meal preparation. Here are some specifics to round out that general definition.

Camp knife photos
Most would agree that a camp knife would be some type of fixed blade. This one by Shawn McIntyre sports a clip point, damascus single guard and a bird’s-beak pommel.

Blade Length

Camp knives can start at a 5-inch blade but usually range between 6 to 10 inches. How much blade length you need often will depend on your campsite. If in an established hunting or fishing camp, a 6-to-8- inch blade probably will be all you need.

Longer blades would be necessary if you were making a campsite that was a short-term proposition. Areas may need to be cleared of thin vegetation for sleep areas or your tent. You may need to widen the trail or even break trail to get to your preferred hunting or fishing location.

Tang Size

Camp knife definition
Camp knives should feature full tangs—that is, the tang goes all the way to the end of the handle. Tangs can be hidden or exposed. Tim Steingass features an exposed full tapered tang on his Big Ol’ Camp Bowie.

The tang’s size often is used to off set the blade’s size, giving the knife better balance. Construction should feature a full tang—that is, the tang goes all the way to the end of the handle. Tangs can be hidden or exposed.

Guards

Custom camp knife
The author said most camp knives should have at least a single guard like this one by Josh Fisher.

While there are many camp knives without guards, I prefer one with a guard, and I like it to be of stainless steel. Whether it’s a single or double guard depends on the knife and its intended purpose. Most camp knives should have at least a single guard.

Jimping

Thumb serrations (jimping) on top and in front of the guard should be considered as they give you better knife control.

Pommel

Some prefer some type of pommel on the end of the handle for hammering. While in the Army I found using an “infantry hammer”—a rock—allows you to hit harder and what you aim at. It also accomplishes the task quicker and eliminates the potential for knife damage.

Handles

Handles are often overlooked on knives. If you have ever used a knife for an extended period of time and the handle was too thin or too wet environment, I recommend a material to allow your hand to mesh with the handle.

Natural materials are often used for handles. With its hills and valleys, stag is an excellent choice. The problem with natural materials is they can shrink and/or crack over time, giving your knife an uneven grip, limiting its utility.

Synthetic materials such as rubber, G-10 or Micarta® can be excellent choices. Rubber will deteriorate over time unless properly maintained. This is especially true in a saltwater environment. When choosing a synthetic handle material, it is best to pick one with some kind of grip to it. Rag Micarta can be an excellent choice.

Incorporating some kind of stippling of the Micarta or G-10 enhances grip. One last thing: Give some thought to using orange G-10. If you drop your knife in the woods, the color gives you a fighting chance to actually find it.

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